History UsefulNotes / Romani

27th Nov '17 4:32:38 PM nombretomado
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* ''Series/PeakyBlinders'' plays straight, plays with and deconstructs many tropes about the Romani. A major plot point is that the Shelby family, who run the titular gang, are part Romani; their paternal grandfather was supposedly a king among the Romani in Birmingham; their mother is referred to as didicoy (half-blooded Romani); and some of the family (particularly Tommy and Aunt Polly) speak Romani, although only when they have to. The Shelbys alternately exploit and shun their connection to the Romani, in contrast with the Lee family, who live in caravans and can all speak Romani and do so among themselves. On the other hand, all the other characters consistently refer to the Shelbys as "Gypsies," even though they are at least as Irish as they are Romani, and sometimes even by slurs more often associated with IrishTravellers. And of course, both the Shelbys and the Lees are crime families.

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* ''Series/PeakyBlinders'' plays straight, plays with and deconstructs many tropes about the Romani. A major plot point is that the Shelby family, who run the titular gang, are part Romani; their paternal grandfather was supposedly a king among the Romani in Birmingham; their mother is referred to as didicoy (half-blooded Romani); and some of the family (particularly Tommy and Aunt Polly) speak Romani, although only when they have to. The Shelbys alternately exploit and shun their connection to the Romani, in contrast with the Lee family, who live in caravans and can all speak Romani and do so among themselves. On the other hand, all the other characters consistently refer to the Shelbys as "Gypsies," even though they are at least as Irish as they are Romani, and sometimes even by slurs more often associated with IrishTravellers.UsefulNotes/IrishTravellers. And of course, both the Shelbys and the Lees are crime families.
29th Oct '17 2:22:35 PM moloch
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Despite generally avoiding assimilation in most ways, Romani do generally follow whatever faith is dominant where they live. Originally they were Hindu, few practice it today but some trace elements survive syncretically. In Western Europe they are mostly Catholic, in Eastern Europe they are usually Orthodox, in the Middle East primarily Muslim, and in the Balkans they are divided between Islam and Orthodoxy. A growing Pentecostal movement is also found in Roma communities in the United States and Spain. The Patron Saint of Christian Romani is St. Sarah, also known as Sara-la-Kali. She hasn't been formally canonized by any church and many anthropoligists believe she is a [[HijackedByJesus Christianized]] version of the Hindu goddess Kali.

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Despite generally avoiding assimilation in most ways, Romani do generally follow whatever faith is dominant where they live. Originally they were Hindu, few practice it today but some trace elements survive syncretically. In Western Europe they are mostly Catholic, in Eastern Europe they are usually Orthodox, in the Middle East primarily Muslim, and in the Balkans they are divided between Islam and Orthodoxy. A growing Pentecostal movement is also found in Roma communities in the United States and Spain. The Patron Saint of Christian Romani is St. Sarah, also known as Sara-la-Kali. She hasn't been formally canonized by any church and many anthropoligists anthropologists believe she is a [[HijackedByJesus Christianized]] version of the Hindu goddess Kali.
23rd Oct '17 8:50:56 AM 2Alana2
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* Rachel Pidgley, one of the main secondary characters from ''Webcomic/TheGlassScientists'' is Romani. She's best friends with Dr. Jekyll (and Mr. Hyde) and works as the cook at Jekyll's Society for Arcane Sciences. She also has a major crush on a werewolf named Jasper.
24th Sep '17 4:24:25 AM foxley
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* ''Series/TheDoctorBlakeMysteries'': In "Sorrow Songs", the murder of a beautiful gypsy woman takes Blake inside the intriguing and exotic world of Romani travellers passing through Ballarat. In keeping with the period, they are always referred to as 'gypsies' and the prejudice they face is featured.
17th Sep '17 12:27:50 AM Doug86
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** ''The Fungi from Yuggoth'' campaign, section "Castle Dark". The {{PC}}s can encounter a {{Gypsy}} FortuneTeller and her son. The woman attempts a reading using [[TarotMotifs Tarot cards]] but it foretells only death and disaster for the {{PC}}s.

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** ''The Fungi from Yuggoth'' campaign, section "Castle Dark". The {{PC}}s can encounter a {{Gypsy}} Gypsy FortuneTeller and her son. The woman attempts a reading using [[TarotMotifs Tarot cards]] but it foretells only death and disaster for the {{PC}}s.
14th Sep '17 2:25:30 AM MarkLungo
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Persecution of Romani is called Antiziganism. Historically very widespread (one of the crimes punishable by death in the [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfHanover 18th-19th century]] "[[DisproportionateRetribution Bloody]] [[AllCrimesAreEqual Code]]" in England was "spending more than one month in the company of Gypsies"[[note]]Given the times, may have not included only Romani but also all transients, particularly the Irish Travellers[[/note]]), it still continues today. As recently as 2010 Paris had come under fire from Amnesty International for [[http://www.amnesty.org/en/appeals-for-action/french-authorities-must-stop-stigmatizing-roma attempting to deport several hundred French Roma]] to Bulgaria and Romania, without regard of where they were actually from or whether they lived in the much-maligned "camps" -- in 2013 there was another polemic episode called the "Leonarda case". Several other countries have also come under fire from the UN and Amnesty International for segregationist policies.

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Persecution of Romani is called Antiziganism. Historically very widespread (one of the crimes punishable by death in the [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfHanover 18th-19th century]] "[[DisproportionateRetribution Bloody]] [[AllCrimesAreEqual Code]]" in England was "spending more than one month in the company of Gypsies"[[note]]Given the times, may have not included only Romani but also all transients, particularly the Irish Travellers[[/note]]), it still continues today. As recently as 2010 Paris had come under fire from Amnesty International for [[http://www.amnesty.org/en/appeals-for-action/french-authorities-must-stop-stigmatizing-roma attempting to deport several hundred French Roma]] to Bulgaria and Romania, without regard of where they were actually from or whether they lived in the much-maligned "camps" -- in 2013 there was another polemic episode called the "Leonarda case". Several other countries have also come under fire from the UN UsefulNotes/UnitedNations and Amnesty International for segregationist policies.



* ''{{Carmen}}'', of course, along with TorosYFlamenco.

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* ''{{Carmen}}'', ''Theatre/{{Carmen}}'', of course, along with TorosYFlamenco.



* "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" by {{Music/Cher}}, which may or may not be about actual Romany.
* Donovan's songs are full of references to gypsies, especially to his friend "Gypsy Dave" Mills. Mills is blood, by Dono's description, and he has other Romany and Irish Traveler friends.

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* "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" by {{Music/Cher}}, Music/{{Cher}}, which may or may not be about actual Romany.
* Donovan's Music/{{Donovan}}'s songs are full of references to gypsies, especially to his friend "Gypsy Dave" Mills. Mills is blood, by Dono's description, and he has other Romany and Irish Traveler friends.



* In Jennifer Lopez's video for "Ain't it Funny" she makes friends with some Romani women and meets and dances with a ''very'' handsome Romani man.

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* In Jennifer Lopez's Music/JenniferLopez's video for "Ain't it Funny" she makes friends with some Romani women and meets and dances with a ''very'' handsome Romani man.
13th Sep '17 7:14:44 PM nombretomado
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* WovenHand's "Oil on Canvas" features the line "Roma, Roma, where is my country?" Your guess is as good as mine [[WordSaladLyrics what it has to do with the rest of the song]].
* "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" by Cher, which may or may not be about actual Romany.

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* WovenHand's Music/WovenHand's "Oil on Canvas" features the line "Roma, Roma, where is my country?" Your guess is as good as mine [[WordSaladLyrics what it has to do with the rest of the song]].
* "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" by Cher, {{Music/Cher}}, which may or may not be about actual Romany.
26th Aug '17 11:09:04 AM Malitia
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** Wanda aka ComicBook/ScarletWitch and her twin Pietro aka ComicBook/{{Quicksilver}} are half-Romani, half-Jewish. They were raised in a pretty stereotypical Gypsy caravan. ([[ItMakesSenseInContext By a cow]].) Their father ComicBook/{{Magneto}} was retconned as being a Gypsy, rather than Jewish, in the early 90s. Apparently when Marvel decided to build him up as a major villain in the ''Fatal Attractions'' crossover, they worried about negative response to having a clearly Jewish villain. However Gypsies were still AcceptableTargets. Fortunately, a later AuthorsSavingThrow returned Magneto to his Jewish roots.

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** Wanda aka ComicBook/ScarletWitch and her twin Pietro aka ComicBook/{{Quicksilver}} depending on when in time we check their backstory (not counting some months in the beginning where they were thought to be the children of Miss America and the Whizzer) are half-Romani, either:
*** Half-Romani,
half-Jewish. They were raised in a pretty stereotypical Gypsy caravan. ([[ItMakesSenseInContext By a cow]].) Their father ComicBook/{{Magneto}} was retconned as being a Gypsy, rather than Jewish, in the early 90s. Apparently when Marvel decided to build him up as a major villain in the ''Fatal Attractions'' crossover, they worried about negative response to having a clearly Jewish villain. However Gypsies were still AcceptableTargets. Fortunately, a later AuthorsSavingThrow returned Magneto to his Jewish roots.roots.
*** Or fully Romani, raised by their aunt and uncle, because they have a RetroactiveLegacy and bringing children into the life of the Scarlet Witch is [[GiveHimANormalLife weird and dangerous]]. This backstory doesn't answer where Magneto's twins went though.
24th Aug '17 1:00:28 AM PaulA
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* A humorous short story by R.A. Lafferty called "Land of the Great Horses" (first published in ''Literature/DangerousVisions'') pretends that the Romani were nomadic because ''extraterrestrials took their homeland'' (ripped it loose, apparently, right down to the bedrock) for geological examination, instilling a compulsion to wander so they wouldn't settle anywhere else. When the aliens bring the land back in the late 20th Century, everyone with a significant degree of Romani blood feels impelled to return to India. An epilogue reveals that the extraterrestrials sampled UsefulNotes/LosAngeles next.

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* A humorous short story by R.A. Lafferty Creator/RALafferty called "Land of the Great Horses" (first published in ''Literature/DangerousVisions'') pretends that the Romani were nomadic because ''extraterrestrials took their homeland'' (ripped it loose, apparently, right down to the bedrock) for geological examination, instilling a compulsion to wander so they wouldn't settle anywhere else. When the aliens bring the land back in the late 20th Century, everyone with a significant degree of Romani blood feels impelled to return to India. An epilogue reveals that the extraterrestrials sampled UsefulNotes/LosAngeles next.
21st Aug '17 12:41:38 PM StarTropes
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* Season 2 of ''Series/NCISLosAngeles'' reveals that Callen's mother was Romani. It's also revealed that he inherited a blood feud with the Comescu family, who are also Romani.
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