History UsefulNotes / Romani

26th Apr '16 12:46:50 PM gallium
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* Creator/CharlieChaplin indulges in negative stereotypes in ''Film/TheVagabond'', in which TheTramp liberates a beautiful woman from a vicious gypsy couple that kidnapped her years ago.
17th Apr '16 10:31:16 PM mlsmithca
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->''"Gib Money'"''
-->-- Catchphrase

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->''"Gib Money'"''
->''"In Romani, there is the saying that ''kon mangel te kerel tumendar roburen chi shocha phenela tumen o chachimos pa tumare perintonde'', 'he who wants to enslave you will never tell you the truth about your forefathers.'"''
-->-- Catchphrase
'''Ian Hancock''', Romani scholar
16th Apr '16 6:45:36 PM jamespolk
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First, gypsies are usually shown as dishonest: thieves, pickpockets, [[ConArtist con artists]], trespassers, and {{tricksters}} who wouldn't think twice about taking everything you own that isn't nailed down, and a few things that are. The danger of children being kidnapped by gypsies was a common old wives' tale. The stereotype for dishonesty is where the term "gypped" probably comes from.

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First, gypsies are usually shown as dishonest: thieves, pickpockets, [[ConArtist con artists]], trespassers, and {{tricksters}} who wouldn't think twice about taking everything you own that isn't nailed down, and a few things that are. The danger of children being kidnapped by gypsies was a common old wives' tale. The stereotype for dishonesty is may or may not be where the term "gypped" probably comes from.
from.[[note]]The origin of "gypped" is not really known. One reason to doubt this explanation is that the term seems to have originated in the United States, which has few to no Gypsies.[[/note]]
7th Mar '16 10:43:25 PM WanderingBrowser
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* Gypsies appear as primitive, stupid antagonists in the Creator/RayHarryhausen film ''Film/TheValleyOfGwangi'', where they insist that the characters should stay away from the titular LostWorld for fear of the titular Tyrannosaurus Rex, which they fear as an evil deity. They ultimately cause the chaos at the film's end when they sneak in and free Gwangi from his cage -- getting eaten in the process.



* InspectorGadget had an episode that focused on gypsies. They were portrayed as living exclusively in caravans and being very festive.

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* InspectorGadget ''WesternAnimation/InspectorGadget'' had an episode that focused on gypsies. They were portrayed as living exclusively in caravans and being very festive.
18th Feb '16 5:32:55 PM jedidarrick
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First, gypsies are usually shown as dishonest: thieves, pickpockets, [[ConArtist con artists]], trespassers, and all-around {{tricksters}} who wouldn't think twice about taking everything you own that isn't nailed down, and a few things that are. The danger of children being kidnapped by gypsies was a common old wives' tale. The stereotype for dishonesty is where the term "gypped" probably comes from.

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First, gypsies are usually shown as dishonest: thieves, pickpockets, [[ConArtist con artists]], trespassers, and all-around {{tricksters}} who wouldn't think twice about taking everything you own that isn't nailed down, and a few things that are. The danger of children being kidnapped by gypsies was a common old wives' tale. The stereotype for dishonesty is where the term "gypped" probably comes from.
1st Feb '16 10:33:58 PM WickedIcon
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In addition to perpetuating stereotypes about the Romani, the media are largely blasé about slurs against them, using insulting terms like "gyppo" or "pikey" without much concern; and to some Romani, the word "gypsy" itself is an offensive slur, though (see paragraph above) there is evidence that British Romani actually encouraged the term, as a supposed Egyptian origin gave their fortune telling schtick more credibility - the same goes for the German word for gypsy, "Zigeuner". It is considered in today's days unacceptable and "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinti Sinti]] und Roma" (which is sort of redundant, since the former are a subgroup of the latter) is used instead. Apparently the Romani are still AcceptableEthnicTargets -- another holdover from [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiziganism previous]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porajmos centuries]] when the Romani were one of the Western world's {{Butt Monkey}}s. Some half a million Romani were [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust killed by SS Einsatzgruppen and in SS concentration, death-through-work, and extermination camps]] during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.

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In addition to perpetuating stereotypes about the Romani, the media are largely blasé about slurs against them, using insulting terms like "gyppo" or "pikey" without much concern; and to some Romani, the word "gypsy" itself is an offensive slur, though (see paragraph above) there is evidence that British Romani actually encouraged the term, as a supposed Egyptian origin gave their fortune telling schtick more credibility - the same goes for the German word for gypsy, "Zigeuner". It is considered in today's days unacceptable and "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinti Sinti]] und Roma" (which is sort of redundant, since the former are a subgroup of the latter) is used instead. Apparently the Romani are still AcceptableEthnicTargets -- another holdover from [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiziganism previous]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porajmos centuries]] when the Romani were one of the Western world's {{Butt Monkey}}s. Some half a million Romani were [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust killed by SS Einsatzgruppen and in SS concentration, death-through-work, and extermination camps]] during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.
8th Jan '16 7:26:25 PM CaptEquinox
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* At one time, being "stolen by gypsies" was not a joke, but something that could actually happen. Attractive little girls who either had rich parents to ransom them, or could look like a Heartwarming Orphan to get sympathy when begging, were often the targets. The massive nationwide hunt for Elsie Paroubek in the spring of 1911 centered on Rom camps not just because of anti-Gypsy hatred, but because other children really had been kidnapped by them and later recovered.



31st Dec '15 5:36:11 PM TheKaizerreich
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** ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'''s [[VideoGame/DawnOfWar Blood Ravens]] SpaceMarine chapter are essentially [[RecycledInSPACE Space Gypsies]]. Their defining characteristics are a higher than average level of PsychicPowers, a tendency toward KleptomaniacHero-ism and having no fixed address, their HQ being located in the flagship of their battlefleet. Worse yet, they're all but confirmed to be a loyalist offshoot of the Egyptian-themed Thousand Suns Chaos Legion.

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** ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'''s [[VideoGame/DawnOfWar Blood Ravens]] SpaceMarine chapter are essentially [[RecycledInSPACE Space Gypsies]]. Their defining characteristics are a higher than average level of PsychicPowers, a tendency toward KleptomaniacHero-ism and having no fixed address, their HQ being located in the flagship of their battlefleet. Worse yet, they're all but confirmed to be a loyalist offshoot of the Egyptian-themed Thousand Suns Sons Chaos Legion.
29th Dec '15 5:17:31 AM Anddrix
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** SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom is a Rom from [[{{Uberwald}} Latveria]]. Unambiguously villainous, but a complete aversion of the Gypsy stereotypes. Well, he's a technical genius. He still grew up amongst superstitious folk living in horse-drawn caravans though. And let's not even get ''started'' on his mother, the demon-summoning sorceress. On the other hand, Doom is a vocal activist for Romani rights, and they are some of the few people associated with a villain who are treated sympathetically in Creator/MarvelComics.

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** SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Doctor Doom is a Rom from [[{{Uberwald}} Latveria]]. Unambiguously villainous, but a complete aversion of the Gypsy stereotypes. Well, he's a technical genius. He still grew up amongst superstitious folk living in horse-drawn caravans though. And let's not even get ''started'' on his mother, the demon-summoning sorceress. On the other hand, Doom is a vocal activist for Romani rights, and they are some of the few people associated with a villain who are treated sympathetically in Creator/MarvelComics.
17th Dec '15 11:56:33 AM FF32
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** While the proudly Russian [[SCPFoundation Captain Dmitri Arkadeyevich Strelnikov]] has a particular hatred for Chechens, he also uses "gypsy" as an insult. Behold some of his Rules For Make Live by:

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** While the proudly Russian [[SCPFoundation [[Wiki/SCPFoundation Captain Dmitri Arkadeyevich Strelnikov]] has a particular hatred for Chechens, he also uses "gypsy" as an insult. Behold some of his Rules For Make Live by:
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