History UsefulNotes / Romani

1st Feb '16 10:33:58 PM WickedIcon
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Despite what The Other Wiki says, "pikey" is almost never used to refer to Romani people, just Irish Travellers.
In addition to perpetuating stereotypes about the Romani, the media are largely blasť about slurs against them, using insulting terms like "gyppo" or "pikey" without much concern; and to some Romani, the word "gypsy" itself is an offensive slur, though (see paragraph above) there is evidence that British Romani actually encouraged the term, as a supposed Egyptian origin gave their fortune telling schtick more credibility - the same goes for the German word for gypsy, "Zigeuner". It is considered in today's days unacceptable and "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinti Sinti]] und Roma" (which is sort of redundant, since the former are a subgroup of the latter) is used instead. Apparently the Romani are still AcceptableEthnicTargets -- another holdover from [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiziganism previous]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porajmos centuries]] when the Romani were one of the Western world's {{Butt Monkey}}s. Some half a million Romani were [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust killed by SS Einsatzgruppen and in SS concentration, death-through-work, and extermination camps]] during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.
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In addition to perpetuating stereotypes about the Romani, the media are largely blasť about slurs against them, using insulting terms like "gyppo" or "pikey" without much concern; and to some Romani, the word "gypsy" itself is an offensive slur, though (see paragraph above) there is evidence that British Romani actually encouraged the term, as a supposed Egyptian origin gave their fortune telling schtick more credibility - the same goes for the German word for gypsy, "Zigeuner". It is considered in today's days unacceptable and "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinti Sinti]] und Roma" (which is sort of redundant, since the former are a subgroup of the latter) is used instead. Apparently the Romani are still AcceptableEthnicTargets -- another holdover from [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiziganism previous]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porajmos centuries]] when the Romani were one of the Western world's {{Butt Monkey}}s. Some half a million Romani were [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust killed by SS Einsatzgruppen and in SS concentration, death-through-work, and extermination camps]] during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.
8th Jan '16 7:26:25 PM CaptEquinox
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* At one time, being "stolen by gypsies" was not a joke, but something that could actually happen. Attractive little girls who either had rich parents to ransom them, or could look like a Heartwarming Orphan to get sympathy when begging, were often the targets. The massive nationwide hunt for Elsie Paroubek in the spring of 1911 centered on Rom camps not just because of anti-Gypsy hatred, but because other children really had been kidnapped by them and later recovered.

31st Dec '15 5:36:11 PM TheKaizerreich
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** ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'''s [[VideoGame/DawnOfWar Blood Ravens]] SpaceMarine chapter are essentially [[RecycledInSPACE Space Gypsies]]. Their defining characteristics are a higher than average level of PsychicPowers, a tendency toward KleptomaniacHero-ism and having no fixed address, their HQ being located in the flagship of their battlefleet. Worse yet, they're all but confirmed to be a loyalist offshoot of the Egyptian-themed Thousand Suns Chaos Legion.
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** ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'''s [[VideoGame/DawnOfWar Blood Ravens]] SpaceMarine chapter are essentially [[RecycledInSPACE Space Gypsies]]. Their defining characteristics are a higher than average level of PsychicPowers, a tendency toward KleptomaniacHero-ism and having no fixed address, their HQ being located in the flagship of their battlefleet. Worse yet, they're all but confirmed to be a loyalist offshoot of the Egyptian-themed Thousand Suns Sons Chaos Legion.
29th Dec '15 5:17:31 AM Anddrix
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** SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom is a Rom from [[{{Uberwald}} Latveria]]. Unambiguously villainous, but a complete aversion of the Gypsy stereotypes. Well, he's a technical genius. He still grew up amongst superstitious folk living in horse-drawn caravans though. And let's not even get ''started'' on his mother, the demon-summoning sorceress. On the other hand, Doom is a vocal activist for Romani rights, and they are some of the few people associated with a villain who are treated sympathetically in Creator/MarvelComics.
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** SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Doctor Doom is a Rom from [[{{Uberwald}} Latveria]]. Unambiguously villainous, but a complete aversion of the Gypsy stereotypes. Well, he's a technical genius. He still grew up amongst superstitious folk living in horse-drawn caravans though. And let's not even get ''started'' on his mother, the demon-summoning sorceress. On the other hand, Doom is a vocal activist for Romani rights, and they are some of the few people associated with a villain who are treated sympathetically in Creator/MarvelComics.
17th Dec '15 11:56:33 AM FF32
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** While the proudly Russian [[SCPFoundation Captain Dmitri Arkadeyevich Strelnikov]] has a particular hatred for Chechens, he also uses "gypsy" as an insult. Behold some of his Rules For Make Live by:
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** While the proudly Russian [[SCPFoundation [[Wiki/SCPFoundation Captain Dmitri Arkadeyevich Strelnikov]] has a particular hatred for Chechens, he also uses "gypsy" as an insult. Behold some of his Rules For Make Live by:
1st Dec '15 8:42:39 AM Arivne
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Corrected improper Example Indentation.
* ''Wiki/SCPFoundation'', [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-983 SCP-983 ("The Birthday Monkey")]]. The person who sold SCP-983 warned that it shouldn't be touched by anyone on their birthday, but that the warning might be just a Gypsy legend.
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* ''Wiki/SCPFoundation'', [[Characters/SCPFoundation [=Characters/SCPFoundation=]]] ** [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-983 SCP-983 ("The Birthday Monkey")]]. The person who sold SCP-983 warned that it shouldn't be touched by anyone on their birthday, but that the warning might be just a Gypsy legend.
1st Dec '15 8:41:14 AM Arivne
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Champions}}'' supplement ''C.L.O.W.N.'' Lisa (AKA the super villainess Random) joined a circus and befriended a GypsyFortuneTeller who worked there. When the fortune teller died she bequeathed a book that gave the location of a pair of magical dice.
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Champions}}'' supplement ''C.L.O.W.N.'' Lisa (AKA the super villainess Random) joined a circus and befriended a GypsyFortuneTeller Gypsy FortuneTeller who worked there. When the fortune teller died she bequeathed a book that gave the location of a pair of magical dice.
1st Dec '15 8:40:14 AM Arivne
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Champions}}'' supplement ''C.L.O.W.N.'' Lisa (AKA the super villainess Random) joined a circus and befriended a Gypsy fortune teller who worked there. When the fortune teller died she bequeathed a book that gave the location of a pair of magical dice.
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Champions}}'' supplement ''C.L.O.W.N.'' Lisa (AKA the super villainess Random) joined a circus and befriended a Gypsy fortune teller GypsyFortuneTeller who worked there. When the fortune teller died she bequeathed a book that gave the location of a pair of magical dice.
1st Dec '15 8:38:09 AM Arivne
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* ''[[Series/BuckRogersInTheTwentyFifthCentury Buckogers in the XXVth Century]]'' had the Desert Dancers of Mercury, who were clearly based on the Gypsy stereotype. * Bats in ''{{Ironclaw}}'' have overtones of being a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Romani -- frequently nomadic, subject to racism, supposed ties to vampires (they have a reputation for ''being'' vampires, in this case), etc. * ''{{Everway}}'' supplement ''Spherewalker Sourcebook''. The Basahn are clearly Everway's version of the Roma. They have light olive skin and dark hair, they travel as families (often in caravans), they speak their own language (called Basahni) and they have a reputation as cheats and liars and face fear, hatred and distrust wherever they go. * R. Talsorian Games' ''TabletopGame/{{Cyberpunk}}' supplement ''[=NeoTribes=]''. The Nomads are those who took to the open road after the Collapse (of U.S. society). Over time they took on a number of stereotypical Romani traits because of their situation. They are hated, feared, distrusted and misunderstood by "statics" (those who don't travel around), they're divided up into clans, and two ways they make money are criminal acts (including con games and theft) and entertaining the "statics" with carnivals. The Romani themselves are one of the major components of Nomad culture, and the other Nomads have adopted many of their ways.
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* ''[[Series/BuckRogersInTheTwentyFifthCentury Buckogers Buck Rogers in the XXVth Century]]'' had the Desert Dancers of Mercury, who were clearly based on the Gypsy stereotype. * Bats in ''{{Ironclaw}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Ironclaw}}'' have overtones of being a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Romani -- frequently nomadic, subject to racism, supposed ties to vampires (they have a reputation for ''being'' vampires, in this case), etc. * ''{{Everway}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Everway}}'' supplement ''Spherewalker Sourcebook''. The Basahn are clearly Everway's version of the Roma. They have light olive skin and dark hair, they travel as families (often in caravans), they speak their own language (called Basahni) and they have a reputation as cheats and liars and face fear, hatred and distrust wherever they go. * R. Talsorian Games' ''TabletopGame/{{Cyberpunk}}' ''TabletopGame/{{Cyberpunk}}'' supplement ''[=NeoTribes=]''. The Nomads are those who took to the open road after the Collapse (of U.S. society). Over time they took on a number of stereotypical Romani traits because of their situation. They are hated, feared, distrusted and misunderstood by "statics" (those who don't travel around), they're divided up into clans, and two ways they make money are criminal acts (including con games and theft) and entertaining the "statics" with carnivals. The Romani themselves are one of the major components of Nomad culture, and the other Nomads have adopted many of their ways.
28th Nov '15 11:02:52 AM JustinCognito
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** Also, ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' has the Silent Striders, who are Egyptian necromancers/travelers with ties to the Roma. It would seem the writers missed the memo that "Gypsies" ''aren't really Egyptian''. The Revised tribebook corrected those errors, specifically mentioning the Striders ended up mixing with the Romani a fair bit due to their nomadic nature, but don't tend to run with the caravans (the laws on marhime - what's clean and unclean - tend to clash with a tribe that regularly interacts with the restless dead). It also says that if a young werewolf meets a Gypsy-style Romani all dressed up, playing a violin and offering to read their palm, it's probably a ragabash playing a joke on them.
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** Also, ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'' has the Silent Striders, who are Egyptian necromancers/travelers with ties to the Roma. It would seem the writers missed the memo that "Gypsies" ''aren't really Egyptian''. The Revised tribebook corrected those errors, specifically mentioning the Striders ended up mixing with the Romani a fair bit due to their nomadic nature, but don't tend to run aren't ''that'' closely intertwined with the caravans culture (the laws on marhime - what's clean and unclean - tend to clash with a tribe that regularly interacts with the restless dead). It also says that if a young werewolf meets a Gypsy-style Romani all dressed up, playing a violin and offering to read their palm, it's probably a ragabash playing a joke on them.
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