Useful Notes Baseball Discussion

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TotemicHero
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08:29:51 AM Oct 10th 2017
I'm about to start work on moving the "Current People in MLB" and "Historical People in MLB" folders to their own subpages, as it will 1) reduce page size and 2) allow us to have those people organized by role. (I'm leaning towards the divisions of "Infielders", "Outfielders". "Catchers", "Pitchers", "Announcers", and "Owners and Managers".)

Any thoughts, objections, other concerns?
PaddyMurphy
08:53:40 AM Oct 10th 2017
Where are you going to file Designated Hitters?
TotemicHero
05:28:44 PM Oct 10th 2017
edited by TotemicHero
Not sure. I already drafted a sandbox for Current People To Know In MLB, and none of the active players on that list are noted as DHs. (I'll get the Historical page worked out tomorrow, and we'll see how many DHs show up there.)
PaddyMurphy
07:13:43 AM Oct 11th 2017
I can only think of 2 of the top of my head, both retired: Edgar Martínez & David Ortiz
TotemicHero
10:12:35 PM Oct 13th 2017
Historical People To Know In MLB is finally done. David Ortiz was the only DH on the list, so I just filed him under his original role of first baseman (infielder). Let me know what you think.
PaddyMurphy
06:10:06 AM Oct 16th 2017
Yeah it doesn't make a lot of sense to have a 1- or 2-person category, and pretty much anyone with success as a DH is going to have played a field position earlier in their career. Looks pretty good and it definitely cleans up the baseball page.
TotemicHero
08:30:12 PM Nov 3rd 2017
Well, there ended up being a couple of 2-person categories anyway, but...oh well, they can be expanded if need be.

Anyway, I stopped being lazy and moved the pages over, indexed them too.
SwordsageRagnar
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10:10:25 AM Sep 29th 2015
So, given the size of the page, I'm thinking that we may want to help improve the organization by adding folders:

Suggestions: -Add a new "Notorious Figures" folder akin to the one on the National Football League page. - Divide some of the more larger folders, into smaller ones. I.E. current players into position. I.E. Outfield, Infield, Pitchers, Manager/Coaches, General Managers/Owners.)

Opinions?
MagcargoMan
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09:34:32 PM Feb 11th 2012
edited by MagcargoMan
Shouldn't we at least mention each teams home stadium? I mean, sure there's mention of Fenway Park, Wrigley Field, Marlins Park and AT&T Park, but what about Yankees Stadium, Dodgers Stadium, Chase Field, Nationals Park and Rangers Ballpark in Arlington? I think it would be useful to note each team's stadiums.
Westrim
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03:50:37 AM Jan 2nd 2011
edited by Westrim
I'm aware that it has been renamed, but that's what redirects are for (that is, not just stopgapping while names are changed but also so that the old name can be left in where needed.). Ain't No Rule fits with 'isn't a rule' better than Loophole Abuse does, so what does it matter when they go the same place?

Oh, and when you're changing a single thing in a 14 line entry, could you please say what it is you're changing as long as your making the edit explanation?
RickOShea2
06:34:01 AM Jun 8th 2011
edited by RickOShea2
I've been working on an addition that'll help explain something about the positions, pitches, and pitching styles. Problem is I'm enough of a newbie at this that I'm not sure about how to properly format the entry, and am not sure what tropes to list for some cases. Anyone willing to give me a hand?
thunderbunny
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09:08:31 PM Jul 7th 2010
I'm probably one of the people responsible for this problem, but: shouldn't "Useful Notes" be more, well, useful? To people that aren't that familiar with baseball, particularly outside the United States, the most useful information would be a description of the basic rules and format of a baseball game; something that the article specifically directs one elsewhere to find. We probably need a little more of that and a little less of this rambling mess full of random factoids about all 30 MLB teams, most of which, let's face it, aren't really that noteworthy. Most team histories boil down to "They came into the league on this date, they were good during this time period, they had this one good player." Maybe the page needs to be rewritten to be shorter, more useful, and cut the MLB trivia down to the things that have made it into general knowledge (Babe Ruth, Joe Di Maggio, the Cubs, the Yankees-Red Sox rivalry, etc.).
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