There are many examples on that tropes page that aren't final, decisive victories. This is the season finale, and the villain's stated goal was to profit from Ladybug making a mistake. I think it should be left up.
The Bad Guy Wins can also be used at the end of an episode or season.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TheBadGuyWins/LiveActionTV
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TheBadGuyWins/WesternAnimation
And Strike Back was a major victory for Hawk Moth.
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The example thread seems to have come to a conclusion of a solid "idk lmao". This is not consensus, but nobody seems interested in continuing the discussion.
Also this was just like completely ignored lmao
I didn't see the "completely ignored" point on the other thread, that the text of the trope itself overrides any cited examples, because the examples might be misuses. That's a fair point. In the case of a Sequel Hook there's some doubt that it will be written, so that can be a The Bad Guy Wins. "The Empire Strikes Back" is not a The Bad Guy Wins because we know there will be another part to the trilogy that turns things around. This case may be similar.
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Welp, it's been added again, so we brought it up again.
Regarding The Bad Guy Wins, we brought it up on the "is this an example" thread
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