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chainsawpenguin2
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07:58:59 PM Feb 27th 2011
There's an epic shot in Gone With the Wind where Scarlett is looking for a doctor to assist with the birthing of Melanie's baby, and runs out into the street. A passing soldier incredulously informs her that there are no doctors available... at which point the camera starts pulling back, to reveal that there are dead soldiers nearby. Then it pulls back, and back, and back, and you realize there are HUNDREDS of dead or dying soldiers in the streets of Atlanta, which is why there are no doctors available to help with a birth.

I'm not sure which category this shot should be placed in (the oner, epic tracking shot, long take...???)

Any ideas? I can't find it mentioned anywhere, and it's really one of the most technically impressive shots of the movie.
supernova
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03:40:25 PM Sep 30th 2010
Shouldn't this just be called a "long take"? It makes as much sense as the current name, except it's actually the real term and people might have picked it up before. (I certainly had, without having watched much behind the scenes stuff.)
Mehbah
06:16:13 AM Jan 3rd 2011
I agree. "The Oner" tells me absolutely nothing about what the trope is. It's misleading, even. "Long take" or perhaps "one long take" is a much better name.
HonoreDB
08:02:03 PM Feb 27th 2011
The Oner is also an established industry term, and Whedon Our Master uses it.
dparse
07:47:10 AM Sep 22nd 2012
edited by dparse
I think that The Oner is a terrible name, call it The Long Take as that is its proper and more common name, or perhaps call it The Long Shot as that's just a descriptive and uses a common expression in the title, which is aesthetic and in style with tvtropes.
dparse
07:50:16 AM Sep 22nd 2012
Additionally, the pronunciation isn't immediately clear - looks like it's pronounced 'owner', pronounced like 'wunner' - which takes away from the aesthetics of the title.
PatBerry
01:02:19 AM Apr 21st 2014
edited by 108.170.107.74
The fact that it's a jargon term used by industry insiders is not a good argument for using it as a trope name. On the contrary, that should be cause for suspicion. Insider jargon terms are often opaque to outsiders, sometimes deliberately so. According to Naming a Trope, trope names should be clear and descriptive. This one fails on both counts.
SeptimusHeap
07:12:56 AM Apr 21st 2014
Well, actually, being a jargon term used by industry is a reason to keep it. We do documenting stuff here; we don't always rearrange it.
Larkmarn
07:16:20 AM Apr 21st 2014
"Industry jargon" makes it sound like it's an esoteric term that no one but Hollywood insiders know of. I'm not well-versed in film or TV outside of, well, watching it and I've heard the term.

And Preexisting Terms are explicitly one of the reasons not to rename a trope. So between that, the inbounds, the lack of misuse, there really isn't any reason to change it.
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