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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
Sep 15th 2019 at 12:38:28 PM •••

General Examples have been removed per https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=80184&type=att#comment-80184

All entries need to mention the specific fan works (or examples) that are Outdated.

Ninja857142 Since: Nov, 2015
Jun 23rd 2019 at 10:00:08 AM •••

Valiona is Edit Warring and not giving reasons for their changes. The section was most recently changed to read:

  • Team 8: Itachi is written the way he appeared when the story first started in 2006, in which he's portrayed as having killed his own clan merely for power. It was also written before the arc in which Naruto trained to add wind chakra to the Rasengan, an arc that established that ninja can only use elemental jutsus that match their chakra's elemental nature. In this fic, Naruto ends up learning several elemental jutsus in a short amount of time.

First of all, as far as I can tell, the claim made here is simply untrue. Ninja are capable of using elemental jutsu that do not match their elemental nature. This is why Naruto can use Earth Release as an adult, and why several characters who do not possess a nature kekkei genkai can use more than one chakra nature (like Sasuke, Kakashi, Boruto, etc.).

Second, the amount of time needed to train to learn an Elemental Nature does not appear clear or consistent. For instance, the Earth Release: Practice Brick Technique can be learned by hundreds of novices instantly.

I am removing the section for now. Please give proper reasons and discuss the issue before editing.

Edited by Ninja857142
bwburke94 Friends forevermore Since: May, 2014
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Dec 16th 2018 at 4:47:36 PM •••

Before I clean up the general examples, I have a question.

If a large number of specific fan works are outdated by the same piece of canon information, can the works be listed together (by name) as a "general" example despite the prohibition on general examples?

The probable answer to this is "no", but it could result in a large number of mostly-duplicate examples.

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Tomodachi Since: Aug, 2012
Dec 16th 2018 at 5:46:46 PM •••

I'll guess its not a problem.

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
Dec 18th 2018 at 4:22:00 PM •••

I realized a difference between Jossed and Outdated by Canon: if a fan work has x happen than the official work has it happen in a different way but similar to what fans predicted, it's outdated without jossing (which is about fan theories).

I see a reason to keep general examples then. For Ron the Death Eater which has a similar issue, every general example cites at least one work.

Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught
Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
Nov 20th 2018 at 7:52:45 PM •••

Okay it says on the bottom of the page description; Please, try to list fan work names and avoid using general examples, as those go to Jossed.

And yet the examples on the page are spilt between General and Specific.

Am I the only one noticing the dissonance between that?

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Tomodachi Since: Aug, 2012
Nov 21st 2018 at 3:02:34 AM •••

No, you aren't.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
FossilsDaDaDa Since: Feb, 2011
Oct 27th 2018 at 10:28:24 PM •••

Regarding the comments about Blaise - is he canonically black in the books as well, or just the movies? Because that might be worth mentioning, as the movies and books are not in the same canon.

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Tomodachi Since: Aug, 2012
Oct 27th 2018 at 11:28:13 PM •••

He is black in the book, and was properly played by a black actor.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
FossilsDaDaDa Since: Feb, 2011
Oct 28th 2018 at 12:59:28 AM •••

I was actually not aware of that, cool.

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