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gatotsu2501
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01:20:17 AM Feb 15th 2013
edited by gatotsu2501
As a Jew, I am deeply offended that this page is accompanied by a banner ad for lronhubbard.org.
Telcontar
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02:07:56 AM Feb 15th 2013
Google does the ads, sorry.
CaptainCrawdad
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10:41:49 PM Aug 6th 2012
edited by CaptainCrawdad
Removed:

  • Rebecca in Ivanhoe by Sir Walter Scott makes it Older Than Radio. Rebecca seems to go for Ivanhoe, but he's only got eyes for his gentile maiden Rowena. Rebecca/Ivanhoe is generally the Fan-Preferred Couple. Walter Scott was quite aware of the fans' feeling toward the Rebecca/Ivanhoe pairing, to the point that her felt it necessary to explain just why Ivanhoe and Rebecca could not possibly have married. It was also rumored that the character Rebecca was based off of real life Jewish beauty Rebecca Gratz.

Ivanhoe isn't interested in Rebecca, so it's not an example. This would be closer to a gender-inverted Shiksa Goddess, since it's Rebecca mooning over the gentile Ivanhoe.
Camacan
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09:43:46 PM May 1st 2011
I don't see that a hate figure is within the scope of the trope. This seems like Square Peg Round Trope.

  • The anti-Semitic counterpart to this, the Jewish Seductress, was popular in German literature between the World Wars. The Landser literature is full of it, and it also appears prominently in Gustav Meyrink's classic of fantastic literature, The Golem. While Mirjam, the rabbi's daughter, is the archetypal good girl, red-haired Rosina is at once seductive and evil, and gives the hero creepy erotic fantasies. Apparently, even the Nazis were torn on this one.
nightmares
01:43:58 PM Oct 8th 2011
It is clear from the discussion on getting rid of real life examples that there is no good reason whatsoever for doing so, instead the decision is because of the prejudices of a handful of dictatorial people.
TrustBen
02:50:40 PM Nov 6th 2011
Camacan, whence the implication that Meyrink was a Nazi? Aside from dying before Hitler took power, Der Golem is too nuanced to count as anti-Semitic literature.
endangeredmonkey
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11:46:21 AM Apr 23rd 2011
Hmm, I can't really tell they're Jewish from the picture alone. Is there any indication I'm missing?
Jonn
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11:40:43 AM Oct 4th 2010
If we need another example picture for this at some point, I suggest Gina Bellman of Leverage and Coupling fame.
NaphthaTurisas
01:19:55 PM Oct 28th 2011
Come to think of it, why is the current picture what it is? Sure, the character in question is more clearly Jewish if you're just going on looks, but I thought this trope was a gender-flip of Shiksa Goddess. Did I misunderstand something about the two tropes?
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