Main Magical Girl Warrior Discussion

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Lyner
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09:32:27 AM Jan 9th 2015
edited by Lyner
Should this trope possibly have "types", like some other tropes I've seen? I mean, there certainly seems to be a major difference between some of these shows. For instance, many maintain a powerful focus on the cuter and "nicer" side, not only in terms of cute fashion but also things like "attacks" of hearts that in some cases don't do any actual physical damage per se; on the other hand, you have stuff like Mai Hi ME and Lyrical Nanoha, where the powers are more elemental and meant for physical combat, and there's less of the fashion and frill sometimes associated with Magical Girl series.

The fact that one or two have argued about whether series like Mai Hi ME and Lyrical Nanoha qualify as the same "true" or "traditional" Magical Girl Warrior as other examples seems to show that there's a significant distinction, or at least a sliding scale. I myself feel that there's a big difference between stuff like Tokyo Mew Mew or some of the Pre Cure franchise and stuff like Senki Zesshou Symphogear and Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA. I wouldn't say they're different enough for separate tropes, but there's definitely enough to distinguish types.
SeptimusHeap
11:16:57 AM Jan 9th 2015
No way are we going to have "types" on it. Trope types tend to end up as unmanageable problems, in practice.
Lyner
01:32:22 PM Jan 20th 2015
I only meant something like what's done in Tsundere. There's a very definite distinction in this trope, but I don't know if it's anywhere near enough to justify some sort of sub-trope(s). Comparing series like Nanoha or Mai Hi ME to stuff like Tokyo Mew Mew or the later Pre Cure material demonstrates this fairly clearly. I'm not sure how the differences can be demonstrated, but I feel like they should somehow be distinguished or at least noted in some manner.
MajinGojira
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06:16:55 PM Dec 13th 2010
A Magical Girl Warrior is defined as a "The intersection of Magical Girl with Super Hero(ine)."

A Magical Girl is defined by us tropers as: "Magical Girls are empowered by various means with fantastic powers that both assist and complicate their lives, but manage to perservere despite this."

Complaining about the % values of each side is splitting hairs and an early standard for the No True Scotsman fallacy. The only cogent argument would be if the powers "assist and complicate their lives" to a sufficient degree, not that "It has too much superhero in it!"
Awakenedgirl
01:50:37 PM Mar 20th 2011
edited by Awakenedgirl
Does Magdalena from Top Cow count as one of these?

Since she has powers, a costume( albeit a more pratical one), and she has a love interest(although he is more badass than Tuxedo Mask was)
sailor_titan
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07:34:36 AM Oct 11th 2010
I changed Nanoha to Fresh Pretty Cure. Nanoha isn't a *horrible* example of a magical girl warrior, but my understanding is that Nanoha is primarily aimed at a male audience and thus not a "true" magical girl in the strictest sense.
MajinGojira
06:12:33 PM Dec 13th 2010
edited by MajinGojira
That's a No True Scotsman Fallacy, not an argument.
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