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169.232.173.151
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04:36:19 PM Mar 7th 2010
edited by 71.154.222.76
Accidental double post by me, so edited
169.232.173.151
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04:36:20 PM Mar 7th 2010
edited by 71.154.222.76
Hono(u)r before reason: Schindler

I think this trope shouldn't apply. It's more of a heroic sacrifice. Honor before reason applies more when there are other options
Cherry_Lover
05:11:28 PM Mar 7th 2010
Yeah, I agree entirely.

Honour Before Reason doesn't mean "any act that isn't solely in the rational self-interest of the person carrying it out". Otherwise practically every person on the planet (or, at least, those of us with actual morals) would be 'guilty' of it at some point. I don't think the Pope example fits either, for the same reason. Refusing to go along with mass murder is not putting honour before reason, it's simply being a good person (and, of course, being in a position to actually do something about it).
howbigis1gb
04:25:25 PM Mar 8th 2010
So do you think we need to make edits?
tussl12
12:25:40 AM Apr 9th 2010
I think that most of the examples in the Real Life section don't fit. Finland and Poland's defiance against the USSR and Nazi Germany aren't really examples of Honour Before Reason, just national pride/survival instincts/not wanting to give up their country.
24.9.195.227
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08:40:36 PM Mar 25th 2010
Alternate name Screw Reason I have Honor, or a variant for the LO Lz!
184.78.111.255
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07:42:54 PM Jun 23rd 2010
leonardo in tmnt is a strong believer of honor, so is one of those honor before reason characters!!!!
Meeble
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06:57:30 AM Mar 17th 2011
This page has gotten to just under 250,000 characters, and is getting a bit difficult to navigate in my opinion. Once it hits 400,000 characters, it will hit Fast Eddie's Big Page Lock report and need to be split.

I propose that we go ahead and perform the split now to pre-empt the problem, and to make the page more readable. I would be basically giving each folder its own sub-page, with the main article being an index of those sub-pages.

Would anyone object to me doing this? If not, I will probably get to it in a week or so, to give people time to chime in.
Meeble
09:11:32 AM Mar 25th 2011
Since no objections were stated, I've gone ahead and made the change. New examples should be placed on the appropriate sub-pages.
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