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18th Aug '17 1:27:53 AM ultimomant
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* ''Fanfic/FateParallelFantasia'': Rin says that battles between magi should be fought only using magic, so she refuses an offered gun even after it is pointed out most magi don't know how to defend themselves against them.
15th Aug '17 12:02:57 PM tropower
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Heroes who abide by this trope more often than not act in a manner that, although morally sound and honorable, is far from the most practical solution. Quite often this kind of decent, chivalrous behavior will come at [[HeroicSacrifice a great cost to the hero's happiness, kill him outright, or similarly leave him a destroyed human being]]. A villain [[GenreSavvy aware]] of such a gallant hero is bound to use FlawExploitation against him as well.

Put another way, a character who adheres to this trope is someone who is [[TheFettered more committed to a particular code of abstract ethics]] than he is to his own self-preservation. He believes in a pre-defined set of rules which universally apply, and he will not break said rules, even if his own death results from adhering to them in one particular instance. These types will usually justify this by claiming that living with the shame that results from having broken said rules is AFateWorseThanDeath.

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Heroes who abide by this trope more often than not act in a manner that, although morally sound and honorable, is far from the most practical solution. [[note]]Except in cases where it is. That said, it isn't always easy to determine what's practical and what's not, either.[[/note]] Quite often this kind of decent, chivalrous behavior will come at [[HeroicSacrifice a great cost to the hero's happiness, kill him outright, or similarly leave him a destroyed human being]]. A villain [[GenreSavvy aware]] of such a gallant hero is bound to use FlawExploitation against him as well.

Put another way, a character who adheres to this trope is someone who is [[TheFettered more committed to a particular code of abstract ethics]] than he is to his own self-preservation.self-preservation[[note]]In some cases, however, the character will try to be equally committed to both. He/she may be more willing to follow the rules, but that doesn't mean he/she is stupid, after all.[[/note]]. He believes in a pre-defined set of rules which universally apply, and he will not break said rules, even if his own death results from adhering to them in one particular instance. These types will usually justify this by claiming that living with the shame that results from having broken said rules is AFateWorseThanDeath.
6th Aug '17 3:42:34 PM ontario_panther
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* The reason why many conservatives have the opinions they do on political issues. They want to honor the traditions of their ancestors even when those traditions don't make sense to non-conservatives.
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* The reason why many conservatives have the opinions they do on political issues. They want to honor the traditions of their ancestors even when those traditions don't make sense to non-conservatives.
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2nd Aug '17 8:11:30 AM jesseblue89
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* The reason why many conservatives have the opinions they do on political issues. They want to honor the traditions of their ancestors even when those traditions don't make sense to non-conservatives.
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3rd Jul '17 1:43:34 PM Theriocephalus
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* ''[[Fanfic/TheLifeAndTimesOfAWinningPony The Lunar Rebellion]]'':
** This appears to be something of a recurring flaw for the pegasi, who value their martial and ethical honor so highly that they will always choose what they perceive as the more honorable path in a given matter, even if their other, less honorable options were objectively smarter, less costly or otherwise more expedient. Itís mentioned at one point that their tradition of never surrendering their city to outsiders and fighting to the last has resulted in a long history of needless last stands that got a lot of ponies killed for the sake of pride.
** This is specifically something of an issue with Shadow herself. A good example would be how, when seeking allies against Duke Polaris (a self-centered noble who had been given full command of the armed forces despite being highly unqualified for the role), she persistently refused to ally with Sunbeam Sparkle, whom she saw as distasteful and dishonorable, despite it being her only realistic choice for gaining useful allies, with the avenues she pursued instead gaining her little beyond lost time that allowed Polaris to cement his position.
5th Mar '17 7:53:48 AM LadyNorbert
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Heroes who abide by this trope more often than not act in a manner that, although morally sound and honorable, is far from the most practical solution. Quite often this kind of decent, chivalric behavior will come at [[HeroicSacrifice a great cost to the hero's happiness, kill him outright, or similarly leave him a destroyed human being]]. A villain [[GenreSavvy aware]] of such a gallant hero is bound to use FlawExploitation against him as well.

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Heroes who abide by this trope more often than not act in a manner that, although morally sound and honorable, is far from the most practical solution. Quite often this kind of decent, chivalric chivalrous behavior will come at [[HeroicSacrifice a great cost to the hero's happiness, kill him outright, or similarly leave him a destroyed human being]]. A villain [[GenreSavvy aware]] of such a gallant hero is bound to use FlawExploitation against him as well.


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* Some of Victoria's more compassionate judgments are viewed this way in ''[[Fanfic/TwiceUponAnAge All This Sh*t is Twice as Weird]]''. It eventually reaches a point where it's questioned whether she should be allowed to continue to sit in judgment.
27th Feb '17 12:51:29 PM hillo315
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An especially poignant situation is TurnTheOtherCheek. Often, and perhaps running counter to the theme of honor besting all, the hero has to be aided by [[BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork Big Damn Villains]], [[VillainsDoTheDirtyWork who are able to cross that final line that his integrity would not allow.]]

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An especially poignant situation is TurnTheOtherCheek. Often, and perhaps running counter to the theme of honor besting all, the hero has to be aided by [[BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork Big Damn Villains]], [[VillainsDoTheDirtyWork Villains, who are able to cross that final line that his integrity would not allow.]]
22nd Feb '17 10:16:16 AM IndustriousArc
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* ''FanFic/ABrighterDark'': Ryoma chooses to accept Xander's request to single combat, despite out-numbering and out-gunning the Nohrian army. His ninja retainers are able to mitigate the damage but if they hadn't, Nohr's conquest would have been a ''lot'' shorter.
23rd Dec '16 8:05:30 AM __Vano
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An especially poignant situation is TurnTheOtherCheek. Often, and perhaps running counter to the theme of honor besting all, the hero has to be aided by [[BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork Big Damn Villains]], [[NecessarilyEvil who are able to cross that final line that his integrity would not allow.]]

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An especially poignant situation is TurnTheOtherCheek. Often, and perhaps running counter to the theme of honor besting all, the hero has to be aided by [[BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork Big Damn Villains]], [[NecessarilyEvil [[VillainsDoTheDirtyWork who are able to cross that final line that his integrity would not allow.]]
15th Dec '16 12:09:11 AM Az_Tech341
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* Choji in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9948266/1/Team-7-s-Ascension-Blood-Wings Team 7's Ascension: Blood Wings]]'' holds very firmly to his policy of ThouShallNotKill during the Chunin Exams after he (accidentally) kills an enemy, while the other members of the Konoha 12 hold to the declared "No Survivors" policy as there's several alliances bigger than their own. This comes back to bite him when an enemy he knocked out gets back up, kills Akamaru, severs Shino's arm, and leaves Ino temporarily crippled. Ino later gave him a WhatTheHellHero for sparring an enemy at the expense of his comrades.

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* Choji in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9948266/1/Team-7-s-Ascension-Blood-Wings Team 7's Ascension: Blood Wings]]'' holds very firmly to his policy of ThouShallNotKill during the Chunin Exams after he (accidentally) kills an enemy, while the other members of the Konoha 12 hold to the declared "No Survivors" policy as there's several alliances bigger than their own. This comes back to bite him when an enemy he knocked out gets back up, kills Akamaru, severs Shino's arm, and leaves Ino temporarily crippled. Ino later gave gives him a WhatTheHellHero for sparring sparing an enemy at the expense of his comrades.
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