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Shadao
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12:54:28 AM Jan 27th 2013
Is there a better way to rewrite the last scenario of the Hitler's Time Travel Exemption Act? The Abusive Parent situation seems too vague for this. I've read the story where a Time Traveler's assassination attempt on Hitler in his childhood inadvertently caused the Antisemitism to arise in Hitler and I think it's a better example for the last scenario.
FiliasCupio
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09:16:45 PM Jun 12th 2012
Any time between the start of the war and the point where a sane German leadership would have surrendered, killing Hitler is probably the worst thing you could do. He didn't overrun the British Expeditionary Force before they could evacuate from Dunkirk. He didn't retreat armies from North Africa or Stalingrad when his generals told him to. He wasted huge amounts of resources on super-weapons which never deployed in significant number, instead of on deploying huge numbers of good-enough-weapons, as the allies did. He invaded Russia in winter.

On the other hand, I'm reliably informed there is a consensus among historians for "No Hitler, no holocaust".
Socius
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04:59:26 PM Jan 26th 2012
The whole idea is based on the central notion that someone wants to prevent WW2 and all its highlights by killing Hitler. Why wouldn't someone take an entirely different approach, like rigging history so that Hitler gets accepted into art school?
MrDeath
07:37:36 AM Jan 27th 2012
There is at least two or three examples on the page where someone does exactly that.
PatBerry
03:49:21 PM Jan 19th 2014
In the short story "Wikihistory," one time traveler explains to another why this isn't a good idea: "Permit me to sum it up and save you the trouble: no Hitler [as dictator] means no Third Reich, no World War II, no rocketry programs, no electronics, no computers, no time travel. Get the picture?"
TARDISES
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09:34:16 AM Sep 18th 2011
Doctor Who describes things like this perfectly, as fixed points in the timeline... Why do I mention this?

It's very likely that Hitler himself is such a point. (Seriously, the effects that man has had. And they're not all negative, for the record. If it wasn't for him, we'd probably not even HAVE many of the things we do because of the technology developed during the space race... That race might not even have been possible for a number of years if it wasn't for him.)
MythicFox
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08:44:14 AM Mar 22nd 2011
I'm suddenly reminded of a story idea I had once for an agency that watches for time travelers come to interfere with/observe the past, and hunt them down with extreme prejudice. The agency was born out of a segment of German police from the first half of the 20th century who had to fend off attempts to murder Hitler on a regular basis (very much like, and not entirely uninspired by, the Subnormality comic excerpted on the main page for this trope).
Brutannica
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04:30:53 PM Jan 20th 2011
I don't see how killing Hitler would affect Japan's warpath at all. The A-bomb and millions of deaths might still happen. Also historians debate whether World War II would have happened even if Hitler had lost the election.
Garbonzo42
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05:24:00 PM Jul 3rd 2010
edited by Garbonzo42
Is there a version of this trope when applied to other people/characters? Something like "Big Bad's Time Travel Exemption Act"? Or is this trope the catch-all?
Cheeseball701
03:56:07 PM Aug 3rd 2010
edited by Cheeseball701
Just realized this comment should be in Troper Tales and not a reply to your comment.
SomeGuy
05:19:33 PM Aug 3rd 2010
As used currently in examples, it's about everyone. But I think a split would probably be prudent, since this page's description is almost exclusively about Hitler.
Angantyr
01:31:57 AM Mar 7th 2013
The idea that if Hitler was stopped the USSR would cause WWII is absurdly funny given that the USSR had no desire to actually fight a war with the West and didn't actually even have much hand in causing the Cold War. It is also a bit frightening that mainstream games like Red Alert go with the Nazi's own view that they were a defense against Communist aggression...
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