History Main / HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct

16th Jun '16 3:36:25 PM margdean56
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** In ''All Clear'' there's a strong implication that [[spoiler: at least sometimes the net puts you somewhere unexpected in order for you to play a part you already played, leading to a {{Stable Time Loop}}. The slippage _is_ to protect history, but nobody ever thought that it might work by ensuring you were in the place you were supposed to be. So you still can't go and kill Hitler, because your own history says you didn't.]]

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** In ''All Clear'' there's a strong implication that [[spoiler: at least sometimes the net puts you somewhere unexpected in order for you to play a part you already played, leading to a {{Stable Time Loop}}. The slippage _is_ ''is'' to protect history, but nobody ever thought that it might work by ensuring you were in the place you were supposed to be. So you still can't go and kill Hitler, because your own history says you didn't.]]
6th Jun '16 4:25:56 AM Doug86
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If you were given the power to [[TimeTravel travel through time]] and SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, what would you do to prevent the atrocities of the past? For many, the answer is obvious: '''kill UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler'''. This [[PreventTheWar would prevent]] WorldWarII, the Holocaust, and their myriad side-effects... right?

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If you were given the power to [[TimeTravel travel through time]] and SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, what would you do to prevent the atrocities of the past? For many, the answer is obvious: '''kill UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler'''. This [[PreventTheWar would prevent]] WorldWarII, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, the Holocaust, and their myriad side-effects... right?



* In Creator/AlastairReynolds' novel ''Century Rain'', WorldWarII is, in fact averted (although not by killing Hitler, he lives till old age) but the result is a negative one, as it effectively halts the progress of science and technology at pre-1940s levels. 'course, it happens in a separate world, not our world[[spoiler:, created as some kind of museum to protect human past. And IIRC, technology may have been artificially halted to prevent rockets from banging on the roof.]]. Effective. Most great leaps in technology pre-Internet was done in, or for, war.

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* In Creator/AlastairReynolds' novel ''Century Rain'', WorldWarII UsefulNotes/WorldWarII is, in fact averted (although not by killing Hitler, he lives till old age) but the result is a negative one, as it effectively halts the progress of science and technology at pre-1940s levels. 'course, it happens in a separate world, not our world[[spoiler:, created as some kind of museum to protect human past. And IIRC, technology may have been artificially halted to prevent rockets from banging on the roof.]]. Effective. Most great leaps in technology pre-Internet was done in, or for, war.



* ''Literature/TheIronDream'' is a rather unusual example set in an AlternateHistory where Hitler emigrated to the US after WorldWarI to become a Sci-Fi/fantasy author. In this world, the Soviet Union conquers all of Eurasia and Africa, but this is all background material - Spinrad instead uses Hitler's [[FictionalDocument book-within-the-book]] ''The Lord of the Swastika'' to point out the UnfortunateImplications of Golden Age militaristic SF.

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* ''Literature/TheIronDream'' is a rather unusual example set in an AlternateHistory where Hitler emigrated to the US after WorldWarI UsefulNotes/WorldWarI to become a Sci-Fi/fantasy author. In this world, the Soviet Union conquers all of Eurasia and Africa, but this is all background material - Spinrad instead uses Hitler's [[FictionalDocument book-within-the-book]] ''The Lord of the Swastika'' to point out the UnfortunateImplications of Golden Age militaristic SF.



* Invoked in the AlternateHistory timeline ''[[Literature/WebersGermanyTheVeterinarianTotalitarian Weber's Germany]]''; Paul Driscoll from ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' manages to ''shoot'' Hitler during the Munich Beer Hall Putsch, but that just leads Friedrich Weber, otherwise a historical nobody, to seize control of the Nazi Party, then Germany, radically changing the course of WorldWarTwo.

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* Invoked in the AlternateHistory timeline ''[[Literature/WebersGermanyTheVeterinarianTotalitarian Weber's Germany]]''; Paul Driscoll from ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' manages to ''shoot'' Hitler during the Munich Beer Hall Putsch, but that just leads Friedrich Weber, otherwise a historical nobody, to seize control of the Nazi Party, then Germany, radically changing the course of WorldWarTwo.UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.



* [[http://www.artc.org Atlanta Radio Theatre Company]], who do audio dramas in the vein of old fashioned RadioDrama, had a story called ''The Assassin'', where the time traveler trying to halt WorldWarTwo goes back in time to assassinate a six year old boy, to prevent the formation of Nazi Germany. The catch? Hitler was the guy who eventually ''replaced'' the dictator-to-be that was assassinated by the time traveler.

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* [[http://www.artc.org Atlanta Radio Theatre Company]], who do audio dramas in the vein of old fashioned RadioDrama, had a story called ''The Assassin'', where the time traveler trying to halt WorldWarTwo UsefulNotes/WorldWarII goes back in time to assassinate a six year old boy, to prevent the formation of Nazi Germany. The catch? Hitler was the guy who eventually ''replaced'' the dictator-to-be that was assassinated by the time traveler.
4th Jun '16 3:50:20 PM nombretomado
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* AbneyPark came out with a novelization of their band's fictional backstory. In it, they subvert the trope by kidnapping baby Hitler and raising him aboard an airship full of pirates.

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* AbneyPark Music/AbneyPark came out with a novelization of their band's fictional backstory. In it, they subvert the trope by kidnapping baby Hitler and raising him aboard an airship full of pirates.
29th May '16 9:24:48 AM FoxBluereaver
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* ''Series/ElChapulinColorado'' has an episode where Chapulin goes up against Hitler himself. [[spoiler: It ends up [[AvertedTrope being an aversion]] when one of Hitler's bumbling lieutenants pulls down a switch that blows up their headquarters, with all of them inside.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Chapulin''': And then history will say that he commited suicide, that the Allies bombarded the place... anyway.]]
15th May '16 4:12:51 AM SuperFeatherYoshi
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** In [[http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3918 this one]], the result of killing Hitler turned out so well that humanity began systematically hunting down every historical villain in order to improve the present, however...
13th May '16 4:29:51 AM Eilevgmyhren
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** During a twist of events, he loses track of Hitler in the modern day, and another fifty years have to pass before his girlfriend finally solves the plot by travelling back in time - finally killing Hitler. It is complicated.
11th May '16 7:54:42 AM Snowy66
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** PlayedForLaughs in the episode, "Let's Kill Hitler", when the Doctor gets forced at gunpoint by Amy's friend Mels to go back in time to kill Hitler. Meanwhile, the crew of the Teselecta, a time-traveling infiltrator robot crewed by miniature humans who punish {{Karma Houdini}}s, tries to punish Hitler in 1938, only to realize they've come too early (they normally abduct them just before their deaths). Before they can rectify their mistake, the TARDIS comes crashing through the window, saving Hitler's life. Hitler takes the opportunity to shoot the robot, [[spoiler:hitting Mels instead]]. Rory then punches Hitler in the face and locks him in a cupboard, [[RuleOfFunny and he is never heard from again that episode]] while the ''true'' plot starts, [[spoiler: with Mels regenerating and revealed to be River Song]].

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** PlayedForLaughs in the episode, "Let's Kill Hitler", when the Doctor gets forced at gunpoint by Amy's friend Mels to go back in time to kill Hitler. Meanwhile, the crew of the Teselecta, a time-traveling infiltrator robot crewed by miniature humans who punish {{Karma Houdini}}s, tries to punish Hitler in 1938, only to realize they've come too early (they normally abduct them just before their deaths). Before they can rectify their mistake, the TARDIS comes crashing through the window, [[StableTimeLoop saving Hitler's life.life]]. Hitler takes the opportunity to shoot the robot, [[spoiler:hitting Mels instead]]. Rory then punches Hitler in the face and locks him in a cupboard, [[RuleOfFunny and he is never heard from again that episode]] while the ''true'' plot starts, [[spoiler: with Mels regenerating and revealed to be River Song]].



'''The Doctor:''' Believe me, it was an accident.\\

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'''The Doctor:''' [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Believe me, it was an accident.accident]].\\
11th May '16 7:50:10 AM Snowy66
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Even worse, if you manage to kill Hitler with no backfire, millions will be saved and the second world war [[PreventTheWar will be averted]]. So you get a TemporalParadox, where you will have no reason to go back in time and kill Hitler, which means you won't, which means Hitler will live, which means that millions will die in the world war and extermination camps, which means that you will go back in time and kill Hitler... after a while, either you'll start to get a little dizzy, wind up in an [[AlternateUniverse Alternate Reality]], or perhaps [[TimeCrash just break time entirely]], ending more lives than a billion Hitlers ever could.

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Even worse, if you manage to kill Hitler with no backfire, millions will be saved and the second world war [[PreventTheWar will be averted]]. So you get a TemporalParadox, where Hitler's death means the Holocaust never happened, which means you will have no reason to go back in time and kill Hitler, Hitler to begin with, which means you won't, which means Hitler will live, which means that millions will die in the world war and extermination camps, which means that you will go back in time and kill Hitler... after a while, either you'll start to get a little dizzy, wind up in an [[AlternateUniverse Alternate Reality]], or perhaps [[TimeCrash just break time entirely]], ending more lives than a billion Hitlers ever could.
9th May '16 9:26:12 AM Willbyr
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* In the ''{{Devilman}}'' story "Late Spring in Vienna", Akira and Ryo end up in Austria in the 1920 to "kill a demon..." A real one, turned into a Count. He has decided to buy a portrait of his wife Sophie, painted by a poor painter that has no choice - he would have preferred to keep it because he loves Sophie. A Jewish art dealer makes the arrangement, but the same evening Sophie dies, burnt by her demon husband. Akira and Ryo kill the lord demon and then come back to their time, hoping that history is in good shape after what they did. Then, back in the 20s, the painter is furious after Sophie's death, and places the blame on his dealer: "I hate you, I'll spend my entire life to destroy you and your whole race!" and the art dealer starts to run after him: "Hey, what are you saying? Where are you going like that? Adolf? UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler!"

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* In the ''{{Devilman}}'' ''Manga/{{Devilman}}'' story "Late Spring in Vienna", Akira and Ryo end up in Austria in the 1920 to "kill a demon..." A real one, turned into a Count. He has decided to buy a portrait of his wife Sophie, painted by a poor painter that has no choice - he would have preferred to keep it because he loves Sophie. A Jewish art dealer makes the arrangement, but the same evening Sophie dies, burnt by her demon husband. Akira and Ryo kill the lord demon and then come back to their time, hoping that history is in good shape after what they did. Then, back in the 20s, the painter is furious after Sophie's death, and places the blame on his dealer: "I hate you, I'll spend my entire life to destroy you and your whole race!" and the art dealer starts to run after him: "Hey, what are you saying? Where are you going like that? Adolf? UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler!"
2nd May '16 10:55:14 AM erforce
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-->'''-- Rules of Time Travel'''

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-->'''-- Rules -->-- '''Rules of Time Travel'''



* The ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' films after the second (plus ''Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles'') shows that trying to prevent Skynet from existing will never work - [[StableTimeLoop after all, the time-travelling killer robots must come from somewhere]].

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* The ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' films after the second (plus ''Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles'') ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'') shows that trying to prevent Skynet from existing will never work - [[StableTimeLoop after all, the time-travelling killer robots must come from somewhere]].



* CommanderBadass of ''Webcomic/ManlyGuysDoingManlyThings'' is a member of the Navy TIALS, an elite group of time traveling soldiers from the future who go to right wrongs in history. While Hitler himself is mostly left alone (aside from getting a punch in the face), the Vietnam War is presented in this context: the Commander went to that time period twice, once to win the war for America, and a second time to stop himself cause winning the war caused the ''Film/{{Rambo}}'' movies to never exist, and that's just too bizarre a world to contemplate.

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* CommanderBadass of ''Webcomic/ManlyGuysDoingManlyThings'' is a member of the Navy TIALS, an elite group of time traveling soldiers from the future who go to right wrongs in history. While Hitler himself is mostly left alone (aside from getting a punch in the face), the Vietnam War is presented in this context: the Commander went to that time period twice, once to win the war for America, and a second time to stop himself cause winning the war caused the ''Film/{{Rambo}}'' ''Franchise/{{Rambo}}'' movies to never exist, and that's just too bizarre a world to contemplate.



-->'''Jew:''' (''[[NakedOnArrival Appearing naked out of thin air]],'' Film/{{Terminator}}''-style'') Get over here Hitler! Iím gonna make you PAY!

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-->'''Jew:''' (''[[NakedOnArrival Appearing naked out of thin air]],'' Film/{{Terminator}}''-style'') Franchise/{{Terminator}}''-style'') Get over here Hitler! Iím gonna make you PAY!
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