History Main / HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct

14th Dec '17 2:40:51 AM lalalei2001
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* Played straight in this arc of [[http://thisisdouglas.thecomicseries.com/comics/130/ This Is Douglas]], where the main characters are foiled by a GrandfatherParadox.

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* Played straight in [[https://tapas.io/episode/98670 this arc arc]] of [[http://thisisdouglas.thecomicseries.com/comics/130/ This ''This Is Douglas]], Douglas'', where the main characters are foiled by a GrandfatherParadox.
25th Nov '17 9:39:36 AM RobTan
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* "The Einstein Gun" is set in a world where Franz Ferdinand is never assassinated, because the assassin's gun jams. World War I never happens, the old continental empires stand, the USA stays isolationist and France becomes the West's beacon of democracy and freedom. Hitler remains in Vienna, where he founds an equivalent to the Nazi Party and becomes Chancellor of Austria, where he institutes the same antisemitic and anti-Slav agenda as in the real timeline, with the explicit support of Emperor Franz Ferdinand. The story ends with the Jewish-Austrian narrator and Albert Einstein using an experimental time machine to send the eponymous gun back in time to the day of the assassination, hoping Ferdinand's death will derail Hitler's rise to power.

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* "The Einstein Gun" is set in a world where Franz Ferdinand is never assassinated, because [[ForWantOfANail the assassin's gun jams. jams]]. World War I never happens, the old continental empires stand, Communism remains a mere fringe political theory, the USA stays isolationist and France becomes the West's beacon of democracy and freedom. Hitler remains in Vienna, where he [[InSpiteOfANail founds an equivalent to the Nazi Party Party]] and becomes Chancellor of Austria, where he institutes the same antisemitic and anti-Slav agenda as in the real timeline, reality, with the explicit support of Emperor Franz Ferdinand. The story ends with the Jewish-Austrian narrator and Albert Einstein UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein using an experimental time machine to send the eponymous gun back in time to the day of the assassination, hoping Ferdinand's death will derail Hitler's rise to power.
25th Nov '17 2:00:45 AM RobTan
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* "The Einstein Gun" is set in a world where Franz Ferdinand is never assassinated, because the assassin's gun jams. World War I never happens, the old continental empires stand, Communism never becomes a major force, the USA stays isolationist and France becomes the West's beacon of democracy and freedom. Hitler remains in Vienna, where he founds an equivalent to the Nazi Party and becomes Chancellor of Austria, where he institutes the same antisemitic and anti-Slav agenda as in the real timeline, with the explicit support of Emperor Franz Ferdinand. The story ends with the Jewish-Austrian narrator and Albert Einstein using an experimental time machine to send the eponymous gun back in time to the day of the assassination, hoping Ferdinand's death will derail Hitler's rise to power.

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* "The Einstein Gun" is set in a world where Franz Ferdinand is never assassinated, because the assassin's gun jams. World War I never happens, the old continental empires stand, Communism never becomes a major force, the USA stays isolationist and France becomes the West's beacon of democracy and freedom. Hitler remains in Vienna, where he founds an equivalent to the Nazi Party and becomes Chancellor of Austria, where he institutes the same antisemitic and anti-Slav agenda as in the real timeline, with the explicit support of Emperor Franz Ferdinand. The story ends with the Jewish-Austrian narrator and Albert Einstein using an experimental time machine to send the eponymous gun back in time to the day of the assassination, hoping Ferdinand's death will derail Hitler's rise to power.
25th Nov '17 1:59:57 AM RobTan
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* "The Einstein Gun" is set in a world where Franz Ferdinand is never assassinated, because the assassin's gun jams. World War I never happens, the old continental empires stand, Communism never becomes a major force, the USA stays isolationist and France becomes the West's beacon of democracy and freedom. Hitler remains in Vienna, where he founds an equivalent to the Nazi Party and becomes Chancellor of Austria, where he institutes the same antisemitic and anti-Slav agenda as in the real timeline, with the explicit support of Emperor Franz Ferdinand. The story ends with the Jewish-Austrian narrator and Albert Einstein using an experimental time machine to send the eponymous gun back in time to the day of the assassination, hoping Ferdinand's death will derail Hitler's rise to power.
17th Oct '17 6:32:11 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Champions}}'' module "Wings of the Valkyrie," the heroes must go back in time to save Hitler after another time traveller kills him before the Nazi Party rises to power... creating an AlternateHistory where things came out even worse (Germany went communist; the West lost the alternate version of World War Two to the German-Soviet alliance; a falling-out between the victors led to World War Three; several cities have been nuked and the major powers don't seem at all afraid of doing it again when the next war breaks out; the United States is sliding into homegrown fascism). Most people in the alternate 1987 have a general sense that [[JustBeforeTheEnd civilization is inevitably going down the drain]]. It caused some complaints from less GenreSavvy readers who had trouble with the premise that offing Hitler might make the world worse.

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* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Champions}}'' module "Wings of the Valkyrie," the heroes must go back in time to save Hitler after another time traveller kills him before the Nazi Party rises to power... creating an AlternateHistory where things came out even worse (Germany went communist; the West lost the alternate version of World War Two to the German-Soviet alliance; a falling-out between the victors led to World War Three; several cities have been nuked and the major powers don't seem at all afraid of doing it again when the next war breaks out; the United States is sliding into homegrown fascism). Most people in the alternate 1987 have a general sense that [[JustBeforeTheEnd civilization is inevitably going down the drain]]. It caused some complaints from less GenreSavvy readers who had trouble with the premise that offing Hitler might make the world worse.
27th Sep '17 8:38:47 AM Kayube
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* In [[http://www.gocomics.com/super-fun-pak-comix/2017/09/26 this]] [[Webcomic/TomTheDancingBug Super Fun Pak Comix]], a time traveller triumphantly declares that he's stopped World War II and the Holocaust by killing someone named Krauss. After his friend asks if he means Hitler, the time traveler grumbles that this would be the eighth time he's had to go back and kill someone.
2nd Sep '17 2:23:55 PM Mario500
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "Back to the Pilot", Stewie and Brian travel back to 1999, where Brian takes the opportunity to warn his past self about [[TheWarOnTerror 9/11]] despite Stewie warning him not to change history. When they return to 2011, Brian is hailed as a hero because he prevented the attacks, and when Brian insists to Stewie that changing history has done nothing but good they then go a little further into the future and discover that the country is a [[AfterTheEnd post-apocalyptic]] nightmare [[TakeThat because of]] UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush. They set things right by going back and telling the versions from the start of the episode not to try changing things.

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "Back to the Pilot", Stewie and Brian travel back to 1999, where Brian takes the opportunity to warn his past self about [[TheWarOnTerror 9/11]] the attacks at the World Trade Center in New York, New York and the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia despite Stewie warning him not to change history. When they return to 2011, Brian is hailed as a hero because he prevented the attacks, and when Brian insists to Stewie that changing history has done nothing but good they then go a little further into the future and discover that the country is a [[AfterTheEnd post-apocalyptic]] nightmare [[TakeThat because of]] UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush. They set things right by going back and telling the versions from the start of the episode not to try changing things.
23rd Aug '17 7:56:42 AM GrammarNavi
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Secondly, even if you do manage to kill him, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero something as bad or worse will appear in his place]]: an even smarter and crueler Führer [[GodwinsLawOfTimeTravel who wins the war]]; or UsefulNotes/JosefStalin [[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert takes advantage of the fact that Germany isn't invading Russia in this new timeline]] and the SovietUnion starts World War II; or [[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert3 Japan starts its own invasion with giant mecha.]] In addition, if it wasn't for Hitler's nightmarish slaughter of "undesirables" that took place under his leadership, the rest of the world wouldn't have experienced the sort of collective shock upon discovery of the Holocaust that spurred them into beginning the process of purging racist elements from their own nations. After all, the American Civil Rights movement, the end of colonial minority rule in places like India, and other rejections of systems of "racial superiority" only started to take place seriously ''after'' the Holocaust. To do otherwise was to essentially agree with Hitler's beliefs, [[GodwinsLaw something that no sane person would even contemplate after 1945]]. If someone ''does'' kill Hitler, they'll almost always have to [[RubberBandHistory undo]] it to prevent this.

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Secondly, even if you do manage to kill him, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero something as bad or worse will appear in his place]]: an even smarter and crueler Führer [[GodwinsLawOfTimeTravel who wins the war]]; or UsefulNotes/JosefStalin [[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert takes advantage of the fact that Germany isn't invading Russia in this new timeline]] and the SovietUnion [[UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Soviet Union]] starts World War II; or [[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert3 Japan starts its own invasion with giant mecha.]] In addition, if it wasn't for Hitler's nightmarish slaughter of "undesirables" that took place under his leadership, the rest of the world wouldn't have experienced the sort of collective shock upon discovery of the Holocaust that spurred them into beginning the process of purging racist elements from their own nations. After all, the American Civil Rights movement, the end of colonial minority rule in places like India, and other rejections of systems of "racial superiority" only started to take place seriously ''after'' the Holocaust. To do otherwise was to essentially agree with Hitler's beliefs, [[GodwinsLaw something that no sane person would even contemplate after 1945]]. If someone ''does'' kill Hitler, they'll almost always have to [[RubberBandHistory undo]] it to prevent this.
19th Aug '17 5:06:26 PM zarpaulus
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** ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'': A man claiming to be a time-travelling historian attempts to invoke this when Picard asks for his advice on their crisis of the week. Picard is profoundly unimpressed, calling it a problem for first-year philosophy students rather than reality. It turns out to be a moot point, as the historian [[spoiler: is actually a time-travelling conman from the past.]]

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** * ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'': A man claiming to be a time-travelling historian attempts to invoke this when Picard asks for his advice on their crisis of the week. Picard is profoundly unimpressed, calling it a problem for first-year philosophy students rather than reality. It turns out to be a moot point, as the historian [[spoiler: is actually a time-travelling conman from the past.]]


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* ''Series/MetalHurlantChronicles'': In "The Pledge of Anya", a warrior is sent to kill a child possessed by a demon, but can't bring himself to do it and is shot by police. Then it turns out the kid was Hitler.
* In ''Recap/MysteryScienceTheater3000S11E03TheTimeTravelers'' Crow is presented with the scenario of a T. rex coming out of a time portal, he says he'd saddle it up and go Hitler-hunting in 1940s Germany.
19th Aug '17 1:41:45 PM HelloLamppost
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* On a closely related note, an episode of ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Freakazoid}} Freakazoid]]'' involves the clownish hero traveling back in time and, almost accidentally, preventing the attack on Pearl Harbor. Realizing what he's done, he wonders what his own time will be like now. "What hath Freak wrought?!" he wonders aloud. He returns home to find that... [[AntiClimax everything is exactly the same,]] except that Creator/SharonStone is now a [[ShakespearianActors Shakespearian actress,]] there are no Creator/ChevyChase movies, and Creator/RushLimbaugh is standing on a street corner collecting charity donations for the poor. He decides these are good changes.

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* On a closely related note, an episode of ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Freakazoid}} Freakazoid]]'' involves the clownish hero traveling back in time and, almost accidentally, preventing the attack on Pearl Harbor. Realizing what he's done, he wonders what his own time will be like now. "What ''"What hath Freak wrought?!" wrought?!"'' he wonders aloud. He returns home to find that... [[AntiClimax everything is exactly the same,]] except that Creator/SharonStone is now a [[ShakespearianActors Shakespearian actress,]] there are no Creator/ChevyChase movies, and Creator/RushLimbaugh is standing on a street corner collecting charity donations for the poor. He decides these are good changes.
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