History Main / HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct

15th Apr '16 6:42:33 PM Az_Tech341
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Secondly, even if you do manage to kill him, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero something as bad or worse will appear in his place]]: an even smarter and crueler Führer [[GodwinsLawOfTimeTravel who wins the war]]; or UsefulNotes/JosefStalin [[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert takes advantage of the fact that Germany isn't invading Russia in this new timeline]] and the SovietUnion starts World War II; or [[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert3 Japan starts its own invasion with giant mecha.]] In addition, if it wasn't for Hitler's nightmarish slaughter of "undesirables" that took place under his leadership, the rest of the world wouldn't have experienced the sort of collective shock upon discovery of the Holocaust that spurred them into beginning the process of purging racist elements from their own nations. After all, the American Civil Rights movement, the end of colonial minority rule in places like India, and other rejections of systems of "racial superiority" only started to seriously take place ''after'' the Holocaust. To do otherwise was to essentially agree with Hitler's beliefs, something that no sane person would even contemplate after 1945. If someone ''does'' kill Hitler, they'll almost always have to [[RubberBandHistory undo]] it to prevent this.

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Secondly, even if you do manage to kill him, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero something as bad or worse will appear in his place]]: an even smarter and crueler Führer [[GodwinsLawOfTimeTravel who wins the war]]; or UsefulNotes/JosefStalin [[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert takes advantage of the fact that Germany isn't invading Russia in this new timeline]] and the SovietUnion starts World War II; or [[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert3 Japan starts its own invasion with giant mecha.]] In addition, if it wasn't for Hitler's nightmarish slaughter of "undesirables" that took place under his leadership, the rest of the world wouldn't have experienced the sort of collective shock upon discovery of the Holocaust that spurred them into beginning the process of purging racist elements from their own nations. After all, the American Civil Rights movement, the end of colonial minority rule in places like India, and other rejections of systems of "racial superiority" only started to seriously take place seriously ''after'' the Holocaust. To do otherwise was to essentially agree with Hitler's beliefs, something that no sane person would even contemplate after 1945. If someone ''does'' kill Hitler, they'll almost always have to [[RubberBandHistory undo]] it to prevent this.
13th Apr '16 6:28:50 AM ParchedStruthious
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* [[http://www.unblockedgamesroom.com/warfare-1917 "Warfare 1917"]] is a flash game developed by Con Artist and is the real image of the World War 1. The game is happening on the battlefield between the Allies on one side and the Axis on the other side.
10th Apr '16 4:47:01 PM TSBasilisk
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* In ''Series/TheMagicians'' a group of students from the 70s or earlier wrote a thesis on going back in time to kill Hitler, even building a time machine to World War II. They failed to account for the fact that Hitler was a skilled battle magician and were killed.
8th Apr '16 1:04:34 PM Paireon
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* In the ''{{Devilman}}'' story "Late Spring in Vienna", Akira and Ryo end up in Austria in the 1920 to "kill a demon..." A real one, turned into a Count. He has decided to buy a portrait of his wife Sophie, painted by a poor painter that has no choice - he preferred to keep it because he loves Sophie. A Jewish art dealer makes the arrangement, but the same evening Sophie dies, burnt by her demon husband. Akira and Ryo kill the lord demon and then came back to their time, hoping that history is in good shape after what they done. Then, back in the 20s, the painter is furious after Sophie's death, and places the blame on his dealer: "I hate you, I'll spend my entire life to destroy you and your whole race!" and the art dealer starts to run after him: "Hey, what are you saying? Where are you going like that? Adolf? UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler!"

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* In the ''{{Devilman}}'' story "Late Spring in Vienna", Akira and Ryo end up in Austria in the 1920 to "kill a demon..." A real one, turned into a Count. He has decided to buy a portrait of his wife Sophie, painted by a poor painter that has no choice - he would have preferred to keep it because he loves Sophie. A Jewish art dealer makes the arrangement, but the same evening Sophie dies, burnt by her demon husband. Akira and Ryo kill the lord demon and then came come back to their time, hoping that history is in good shape after what they done.did. Then, back in the 20s, the painter is furious after Sophie's death, and places the blame on his dealer: "I hate you, I'll spend my entire life to destroy you and your whole race!" and the art dealer starts to run after him: "Hey, what are you saying? Where are you going like that? Adolf? UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler!"



* Subverted in ''Manga/{{Zipang}}''. The hit performed by person of that period act on information by time travelers. An attempt was made by an IJN officer because he knows from Mirai crew, the time travel Axis would lose [[InSpiteOfANail no matter what]] and sufferings of Japanese people after war. To prevent that, he tried to kill Hitler so war will end quickly and Japan can get peace treaty with good term. He failed.

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* Subverted in ''Manga/{{Zipang}}''. The hit is performed by person someone of that time period act acting on information by from time travelers. travellers. An attempt was made by an IJN officer because he knows from Mirai crew, the time travel time-displaced crew of the Mirai, that the Axis would lose [[InSpiteOfANail no matter what]] and of the sufferings of the Japanese people after the war. To prevent that, he tried to kill Hitler so the war will would end quickly and Japan can could get a peace treaty with good term.terms. He failed.



-->'''Midnighter''': ''...it was just this pathetic little man going of to meet his ultimately quite '''mundane''' fate...''\\

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-->'''Midnighter''': ''...it was just this pathetic little man going of off to meet his ultimately quite '''mundane''' fate...''\\
27th Mar '16 12:02:20 PM nighttrainfm
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* ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''. In "Storm Front" Captain Archer is urged by one of the people in the AlternateUniverse where Germany is winning [=WW2=] to use his phase cannons to destroy Berlin, but he tells her to be patient and let him correct history his way. This is a somewhat odd example, as history had already been massively screwed with, and conceivably Archer could have sterilized all of Earth to no ill effect, as the one event he did need to change would reset everything anyway.

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** ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'': A man claiming to be a time-travelling historian attempts to invoke this when Picard asks for his advice on their crisis of the week. Picard is profoundly unimpressed, calling it a problem for first-year philosophy students rather than reality. It turns out to be a moot point, as the historian [[spoiler: is actually a time-travelling conman from the past.]]
* ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''. ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'':
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In "Storm Front" Captain Archer is urged by one of the people in the AlternateUniverse where Germany is winning [=WW2=] to use his phase cannons to destroy Berlin, but he tells her to be patient and let him correct history his way. This is a somewhat odd example, as history had already been massively screwed with, and conceivably Archer could have sterilized all of Earth to no ill effect, as the one event he did need to change would reset everything anyway.
13th Mar '16 2:45:10 PM Morgenthaler
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* In one rather heavy-handed episode of ''{{Sliders}}'', it was discovered that a world in which California was essentially a Nazi state, complete with the ethnic cleansing of minorities, had never had a Hitler (as per one character's befuddled reaction when Hitler's name is dropped), and had therefore never "learned its lesson", namely the horrors of racial oppression and genocide.

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* In one rather heavy-handed episode of ''{{Sliders}}'', ''Series/{{Sliders}}'', it was discovered that a world in which California was essentially a Nazi state, complete with the ethnic cleansing of minorities, had never had a Hitler (as per one character's befuddled reaction when Hitler's name is dropped), and had therefore never "learned its lesson", namely the horrors of racial oppression and genocide.
13th Mar '16 8:57:36 AM SvartiKotturinn
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* Israeli webcomic ''[[http://www.theism-comics.com/ The Ism]]'' points out a potential problem:
-->(''Outskirts of Berlin, 1920'')
-->'''Jew:''' (''[[NakedOnArrival Appearing naked out of thin air]],'' Film/{{Terminator}}''-style'') Come over here Hitler! Iíma kill ya!
-->'''Hitler:''' (''Having just killed him'') This is the tenth time a random Jew has tried to kill me. I have to find a solution to the Jewish Problem.

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* Israeli webcomic ''[[http://www.theism-comics.com/ com/main/the-jewish-solution/ The Ism]]'' points out a potential problem:
-->(''Outskirts of Berlin, 1920'')
1910''[[note]](1920 in the original Hebrew[[/note]])
-->'''Jew:''' (''[[NakedOnArrival Appearing naked out of thin air]],'' Film/{{Terminator}}''-style'') Come Get over here Hitler! Iíma kill ya!
Iím gonna make you PAY!
-->'''Hitler:''' (''Having just killed him'') This is the tenth TENTH time a random Jew has tried to kill me. I have to find a solution to THERE MUST BE SOME SOLUTION TO THIS JEWISH PROBLEM.
** Original Hebrew [[http://www.theism.co.il/comics/timetravel here]]; itís slightly different than
the Jewish Problem.English version.
6th Mar '16 7:05:26 AM KizunaTallis
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* In a recent issue of ''ComicBook/BoosterGold'', Booster off-handedly asks if this mission is stopping another time traveling Hitler assassin.

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* In a recent one issue of ''ComicBook/BoosterGold'', Booster off-handedly asks if this mission is stopping another time traveling Hitler assassin.



* [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] in Creator/StephenKing's ''Literature/ElevenTwentyTwoSixtyThree'' where, instead of going back in time to assassinate someone, the title character instead goes back in time to ''prevent'' an assassination, specifically that of JFK. [[spoiler: He learns the hard way that the trope goes both ways; not only did the future of that timeline turn out to become a CrapsackWorld where the Civil Rights movement never happened, about half of the world was victimized by one nuclear incident or another, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Maine seceded to Canada]], but it turns out that drastic changes to history can [[TimeCrash destroy time itself]].]]

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* [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] in Creator/StephenKing's ''Literature/ElevenTwentyTwoSixtyThree'' where, instead of going back in time to assassinate someone, the title main character instead goes back in time to ''prevent'' an assassination, specifically that of JFK. [[spoiler: He learns the hard way that the trope goes both ways; not only did preventing the future of that timeline turn out to become a CrapsackWorld where assassination actually [[BadFuture make things worse]] ([[CrapsackWorld for one thing, the Civil Rights movement never happened, about half of the world was victimized by one is rendered uninhabitable thanks to nuclear incident or another, warfare]], and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Maine seceded to Canada]], Canada]]), but it turns out that making drastic changes to history can [[TimeCrash destroy time itself]].]]
5th Mar '16 3:21:29 AM Morgenthaler
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* One of the main characters in Sergey Lukyanenko's novel ''Dances on the Snow'' (a part of the ''{{Genome}}'' trilogy) mentions that simulations were done on what would happen if certain key historical figures were to be eliminated before they did what they did. The result was that no single person, even Hitler or Stalin, are important enough in the grand scheme of things to significantly alter the chain of events that resulted in the world history. It should be noted that no time travel technology exists in the novel, this was purely a simulation.

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* One of the main characters in Sergey Lukyanenko's novel ''Dances on the Snow'' (a part of the ''{{Genome}}'' ''Literature/{{Genome}}'' trilogy) mentions that simulations were done on what would happen if certain key historical figures were to be eliminated before they did what they did. The result was that no single person, even Hitler or Stalin, are important enough in the grand scheme of things to significantly alter the chain of events that resulted in the world history. It should be noted that no time travel technology exists in the novel, this was purely a simulation.
29th Feb '16 11:39:57 AM Locoman
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** Barber is kind enough to show us the appalling potential consequences of a ''lack'' of the war too, though. Cybertron's corrupt government is not overthrown because the Decepticons never rose up against it and in time was hijacked by [[FantasticRacism Functionalists]], religious fundamentalists who enforce an increasingly strict social hierarchy with themselves firmly at the top. As time goes on they become powerful enough to bring into force 'obsolescence chips' which can insta-kill any Cybertronian not deemed useful enough - or who proves too rebellious. By the present day, Cybertron is a totalitarian police-state where constant surveillance, casual racism, and punitive mutilations are the norm.

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** Barber Roberts is kind enough to show us the appalling potential consequences of a ''lack'' of the war too, though. Cybertron's corrupt government is not overthrown because the Decepticons never rose up against it and in time was hijacked by [[FantasticRacism Functionalists]], religious fundamentalists who enforce an increasingly strict social hierarchy with themselves firmly at the top. As time goes on they become powerful enough to bring into force 'obsolescence chips' which can insta-kill any Cybertronian not deemed useful enough - or who proves too rebellious. By the present day, Cybertron is a totalitarian police-state where constant surveillance, casual racism, and punitive mutilations are the norm.
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