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11:14:16 PM Jan 7th 2013
edited by NordAmerikano
The big Paradox games (Europa Universalis, Victoria, Crusader Kings, Hearts of Iron) really shouldn't be on here. They're Grand Strategy, which while having some very basic similarity to 4X, are a different animal entirely.

Europa Universalis is probably the most similar to a 4X out of the above, but to label it as one is definitely a stretch. I'll leave them in for now, but they really shouldn't be on this list.
04:51:09 PM Jun 28th 2013
If you feel they belong in a different genre, then put 'em there. Maybe take a Grand Strategy genre page to YKTTW.
02:13:45 AM Aug 7th 2012
there are 2 entries for aurora, could somebody fix this?
06:01:43 PM Jan 17th 2013
I second this request.

And speaking of things that need fixing, "Fall From Heaven" is currently a sub-bullet of "Free Civ" when it should be under "Sid Meier's Civilization series".

Also, though i'm not 100% sure about this one: shouldn't the verb be pluralized in: "Age of Empires and Empire Earth *are* [examples of] 4X RTS"? It's been written "Ao E and EE is 4X" since added, in March 2011, but i still think it should be changed.
08:14:13 PM Feb 10th 2013
I fixed the Aurora one.
08:15:33 PM Feb 29th 2012
Note on the trope description — Civilization is credited as the "first" 4X game, but Reach for the Stars predated it by a good eight years. I would argue that CIV *popularized* the genre, it just wasn't the first electronic iteration of the concept.
11:37:54 AM Feb 19th 2012
Think it's worth turning this into an index page?