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Kuruni (Long Runner)

Oct 22nd 2021 at 10:19:59 PM •••

Hmm... So any strategy game with Fog of War (X-Plore), ability to start new base (X-Pand), upgradable base (X-Ploit), and "wipe out the enemy" goal (X-Terminate) such as C&C would be 4X as well? I think we miss something here.

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Kuruni (Long Runner)

Apr 29th 2022 at 1:19:11 PM •••

Silly me, just noticed I pasted a wrong link in edit reason.

The query about removing Age of Empires is here

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)

Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:14:42 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Into an Index, started by DeLuman on Mar 15th 2011 at 7:26:47 PM

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NordAmerikano Since: Nov, 2012

Jan 7th 2013 at 11:14:16 PM •••

The big Paradox games (Europa Universalis, Victoria, Crusader Kings, Hearts of Iron) really shouldn't be on here. They're Grand Strategy, which while having some very basic similarity to 4X, are a different animal entirely.

Europa Universalis is probably the most similar to a 4X out of the above, but to label it as one is definitely a stretch. I'll leave them in for now, but they really shouldn't be on this list.

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StarSword Since: Sep, 2011

Jun 28th 2013 at 4:51:09 PM •••

If you feel they belong in a different genre, then put 'em there. Maybe take a Grand Strategy genre page to YKTTW.

wertsir Since: Jun, 2011

Aug 7th 2012 at 2:13:45 AM •••

there are 2 entries for aurora, could somebody fix this?

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JokesFree4Me Since: Dec, 1969

Jan 17th 2013 at 6:01:43 PM •••

I second this request.

And speaking of things that need fixing, "Fall From Heaven" is currently a sub-bullet of "Free Civ" when it should be under "Sid Meier's Civilization series".

Also, though i'm not 100% sure about this one: shouldn't the verb be pluralized in: "Age of Empires and Empire Earth *are* [examples of] 4X RTS"? It's been written "Ao E and EE is 4X" since added, in March 2011, but i still think it should be changed.

Azaram Since: Jan, 2001

Feb 10th 2013 at 8:14:13 PM •••

I fixed the Aurora one.

EricKei Vainglorious Overlord Since: Jan, 2001

Vainglorious Overlord

Feb 29th 2012 at 8:15:33 PM •••

Note on the trope description — Civilization is credited as the "first" 4X game, but Reach for the Stars predated it by a good eight years. I would argue that CIV *popularized* the genre, it just wasn't the first electronic iteration of the concept.

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EricKei Since: Jan, 2001

Feb 29th 2012 at 8:15:46 PM •••

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reach_for_the_Stars_%28video_game%29

StarSword Captain of USS Bajor Since: Sep, 2011

Captain of USS Bajor

Feb 19th 2012 at 11:37:54 AM •••

Think it's worth turning this into an index page?

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