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Drolyt
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01:42:33 PM Apr 6th 2010
I'm not fond of the following paragraph: "Of course, this is the reasoning of people who either can't reason or are so wedded to whatever they want to believe in that they discard the idea out of hand. While the idea of the result of death being annihilation is somewhat distasteful, it shouldn't be something to fear, because, to put it bluntly, you will never know. It's not a lovely Fluffy Cloud Heaven or a boiling molten hell, you know nothing, you feel nothing, and you are nothing. If you "die dead", and are gone forever, you have no knowledge of anything, not even of your own death."

It seems somewhat offensive to those like myself who, while not exactly fearing this possibility, would much prefer to keep on living or find some sort of eternal reward in heaven than simply cease to exist. Of course I wouldn't be worrying about it anymore at that point, but still. I like living. I'm not sure what kind of life Socrates had that he considered a dreamless sleep preferable preferable to continuing living. There is so much left to do, I don't think I would be satisfied with living a hundred million lifetimes.
Sines
03:36:19 PM Jul 18th 2010
I think it makes the point that there is nothing to worry about 'being dead'. For example, this is the ending I subscribe to. If anyone asks me if I'm afraid of being dead, I'll say no. I'm still afraid of dying, as it is both painful (probably) and marks an end to my existence. But I'm more sad that my lifespan is limited than I would be about actually being dead. Eternal happiness would be preferable, but in the spectrum of afterlives, anihilation is better than all those torturous or bleak afterlives.

The point is that there is no reason to be afraid of the fate itself, as you will not suffer in any way, shape or form. Being afraid of this is the fear of ceasing to exist, not a fear of the afterlife itself
Caswin
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02:14:31 PM Dec 1st 2010
edited by Caswin
To answer a question from the page history about just how the excerpt from "Imagine" counts as Moral Dissonance: The underlying premise of there being no final judgment, Heaven or Hell, even if it's meant to be comforting — which I don't know if it is or not — is disturbing or frightening to many listeners. Alternatively, the eternal torment itself is the subject of the "dissonance". In any case, though, the idea of Nothing being more comfortable than the alternative is... a point of contention, to say the least.
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