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KelpTheGreat Since: Feb, 2013
Nov 12th 2017 at 10:38:19 PM •••

Is the second panel of the trope image REALLY necessary? I think that the trope could be illustrated more succinctly with only the first panel.

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LeonEvelake Since: Apr, 2013
Jul 11th 2022 at 1:46:23 AM •••

There is probably something better over all for the page image than something on the cruder side like the current image.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 10:54:07 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Duplicate Trope, started by MarqFJA on Dec 14th 2013 at 1:22:32 AM

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sstabeler Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 14th 2017 at 11:47:42 AM •••

it occurs to me that there seem to be two main variants of this trope, and the article might be improved by making that clear: 1) Where defeating her is a prerequisite to marriage, but does NOT require marriage (for instance, in the A Song of Ice and Fire example, Ygritte wasn't required to marry Jo by wildling custom, it is just that defeating her would be a prerequisite. (basically "You must defeat me before I will consider marriage") 2) Where defeating her means she doesn't have a choice but to marry you (basically "If you defeat me, I'll marry you"- the difference being that if you win, then you are engaged, as opposed to the first type, where it was merely a prerequisite)

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