Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Complaining
, started by LaundryPizza03 on Oct 4th 2020 at 7:37:00 AM
Do you think adult animation would benefit from being more inclusive in the kinds of creators it fosters? Only unlike a lot of the recent Children and Teenagers affairs for CN or Disney, Networks or services like Fox, Adult Swim, Comedy Central or even Netflix don't seem to want to pick up or at least be encouraging of projects from Female, Black or even Asian creators.
This might be a highly libertarian thing to bring up but I think more diversity could help in possibly rejuvinate a sub-group of animation that has become increasingly stagnant in certain areas.
Do you think we will see that eventually?
I'd like to propose a few suggestion to keep this page going while still keeping it relevant.
There are two things I've noticed about the examples on this page: one, it's less public medium ignorance and more the perception of creators and executives. I've rarely seen anyone dismiss a good adult animated show on the assumption that it was just another "Family Guy" without them being right, so it's more Follow The Leader crossed with Animation Age Ghetto. These types of cartoons also seem to be part f a dying trend, with shows like Rick and Morty and Bojack Horseman decidedly going against the mindset of cartoons for adults being needlessly vulgar and mean.
I can't say exactly HOW to change this trope to fit this, but I think it should be rewritten with this in mind. Maybe it can be absorbed into the animation age ghetto, but only if that changes to "animation is either meandering kiddie fare or vulgar, mean-spirited adult fare. There is no in-between."
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Basically canon
It seems we've got an Edit War on our hands. Shows like Sponge Bob Square Pants and Adventure Time have not and never have been aimed at an adult audience (not to mention the original demographic is clear just by watching them - kids enjoy gross-out humor too). Yet seemingly whenever anyone removes them, CartoonFreak zooms in to put them back.
I'm not normally the kind to advocate the locking of pages, but...
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Seems the easier thing to do is just get Cartoon Freak suspended on Ask The Tropers.
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The description sounds like it's about the attitude that all adult animation is like South Park, and identifies this as a bad thing, but then it's just a list of adult cartoons with raunchy or violent humor (And That's Terrible).
Just because people like to make that type of animation doesn't mean they're copying South Park or perpetuating the rumor.
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It surprises me that a page this old is without a type.
Edited by Koveras
So shouldn't this page list some counter-examples? I'm struggling to think of a successful Western animated series for adults that doesn't fit this perception.
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Counteer-examples... counter examples... counter-examples...
(The following is entirely debateable)
- Well, The Simpsons bridges the gap between Adult and Children;'s cartoons, you might even call it a gateway cartoon to Family Guy and South Park.
- Some adults like King of the Hill
- Definitely not Beavis and Butt-head but maybe Dariah
- Tim Burton animated movies?
- Robert Zemeckas animated movies (varies ALLOT, which is odd because he's only done 3 so far)
- Don Bluth!
- Final Fantasy the Movie
This page shouldn't list counterexamples. It's not a page about a trope. It's about a page about a viewpoint that you can relate to Animation Age Ghetto. If you loko at Animation Age Ghetto, the examples aren't lists of "Well, I like this, I am mature so this is a mature cartoon", they are examples of reactions and treatments of animations (scheduling mistakes, cancellings, mismarketing etc.) that suffer from the Animation Age Ghetto viewpoint. This isn't about the actual works. The examples are therefore not actual works.
Now without example of this attitude interjecting upon works, we just have a statement with no back-up and I'm wondering if maybe some people aren't just being snotty about sorts of humour?
Edited by SomeSortOfTroper
I'm not sure I've ever come across this attitude. As popular as South Park is it's much less well known than Fox animated sitcoms. Good ratings for cable are terrible ratings for network. I know a lot of people associate animation with being only comedy, but not necessarily vulgar, because in western animation it practically is only comedy.
edit: Obviously, just because I haven't run into it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Edited by FlyingV
I'll refer you to the forum discussion
I guess we're looking at an essay that doesn't look at things the right way, has no backup proof and is misplaced on this wiki.
Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Ambiguous Name
, started by TheWhistleTropes on Mar 4th 2020 at 3:44:56 AM
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