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jaydude Since: Apr, 2013
Jun 7th 2015 at 5:05:12 AM •••

Removing Julia1984's point. See below:

Zaheer successfully helping Korra overcome the trauma he himself put her through in "Beyond the Wilds." That's like saying, if a woman was raped by a highly-renowned, successful psychologist or therapist, it would actually be helpful and effective if she went to him for therapy to help her heal
I disagree with this analogy. Zaheer's not a rapist; his actions weren't done out of a warped sense of entitlement or any kind of sadistic desire. He genuinely thought he was doing good for the world when he attempted to poison Korra. A more accurate analogy would be the psychologist/therapist mugging the girl to pay for a loved one's medical bills, then offering his services to the girl when he sees that his actions have given the girl trauma that has negatively impacted the lives of those around her.

If he genuinely felt remorse for what he put her through and wanted to atone for his actions, it would be... slightly better. But he feels no guilt, no remorse, for what he did to her...
Zaheer does show remorse, in that he's not proud when he's informed that his actions have led to the rise of the next Big Bad, but I don't know why you're saying that Zaheer should be feeling remorseful towards Korra for what he's done to her. Like I said earlier, he genuinely thought he was doing the world a favour by attempting to kill the Avatar.

...and yet submitting to him, relinquishing all control, letting him talk her through the visions of him brutally trying to kill her is what makes her able to heal.
That's more or less Exposure therapy, which is actually a legitimate form of treating PTSD. I will admit that the scene in question could probably have happened with Jinora in Zaheer's place, however.

It's the most disgusting, sickening, horrifying display of blaming the victim I've ever seen in fiction. If being poisoned and nearly suffocated hurt her, it's her fault for being weak, not his fault for doing it
I'm sorry, but I don't see it as that at all. Zaheer doesn't tell Korra that she's weak, just that she's holding herself back ("You have all the power in the world and the freedom to use it, but you choose to hold yourself down."), and in fact, the next thing he tells her is that she's not nearly as weak as she thinks she is ("You think your power has limits; I say, it's limitless.").

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Julia1984 Since: Sep, 2014
Aug 7th 2015 at 10:10:26 AM •••

Interesting rebuttal, but it fits all of the required criteria for a valid post: it's signed, it's my only one on this page, it's only one specific scene, it's subjective and my opinion, it's not natter contesting another entry, it explains why I find it disgusting enough to knock LoK off the throne it was raised to in Season 3, it's not Real Life, and it's not all caps or bold. It violated no rule for this site or this section.

akanesarumara Since: Mar, 2012
Dec 30th 2015 at 2:59:58 AM •••

About the same point, I always saw it as Korra facing the man who traumatized her and not running away anymore. She tells what he did to his face, and he does not invalidate her experience; he doesn't claim he did nothing to her or had no idea he was hurting her.

akanesarumara Since: Mar, 2012
Dec 8th 2015 at 8:39:36 AM •••

Contesting an entry by Ecojosh1. The point Ecojosh1 made is that the Air Acolytes are equivalent to the non-bending populace of the Water Tribes, the Earth Kingdom or the Fire Nation. However, according to Word of God, the Air Nomads were unique in the way that every single one of them was in fact an airbender: the Air Temples never had non-bending inhabitants before the Fire Nation attacked.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Dec 8th 2015 at 10:11:26 AM •••

That's entirely irrelevant. You're missing his point... his point is that the Air Acolytes had become the equivalent to non-bending members of a nation (culturally part of the nation, even if they're not powered), then bushed under the rug once random people from other countries developed airbending, even if they're as far from Air Nomad culture as possible.

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akanesarumara Since: Mar, 2012
Dec 9th 2015 at 7:13:45 AM •••

I wouldn't say it's irrelevant. Though the first season of Korra proves beyond a doubt that the non-bending populace in general could be treated far better by the benders, the Earth Kingdom, Fire Nation and the Water Tribes have one major advantage compared to the Air Nomads: they have always had non-benders through their history and they knew how to behave around them and how to live together with them. Air Nomads did not. Also though the coordination of the new airbenders fell on Tenzin and his kids, I am sure the Air Acolytes must have helped a lot, same with preparing Jinora's initiation ceremony. Example: The teaching of airbending and the setting of daily schedule fell on Tenzin and the air babies, but teaching about the history, culture and spirituality is something the Air Acolytes could do too.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Dec 22nd 2015 at 2:54:53 PM •••

But that's the thing. Yes, there's plenty of roles for them. And they're shown doing... precisely none of them. Yes, it's largely because the show is focused on the powered people but they're definitely swept under the rug as far as the narrative is focused.

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