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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
Theharbo Since: Oct, 2011
Apr 22nd 2024 at 3:47:06 AM •••

No one is stopping you from adding them.

ElodieHiras Since: Sep, 2010
Jan 7th 2021 at 9:06:11 AM •••

Admittedly I haven't read all the material about the Mutons, but something about classifying Axiom's comments on how Mutons' brains were "mostly muscle" at one point as Bizarre Alien Biology strikes me as odd... Especially considering it came from Axiom... Is there any material that suggests he was being literal instead of just saying Mutons used to be Dumb Muscle, calling the mutons of the past what amounts to "meatheads" in Expospeak Gag speech?

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Theharbo Since: Oct, 2011
Jan 7th 2021 at 10:27:59 AM •••

I seem to remember it being in a talk between Godmother and him, talking about the first war. It's been a while since I added the entry.

That said, I can say with certainty that I don't add entries baselessly - it's something I do when I hear a voice line and go "ohey, let's add that."

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SpectralTime Since: Apr, 2009
Jan 7th 2021 at 6:38:00 PM •••

I don't think it's mean to be a literal line, so Bizarre Alien Biology is probably Square Peg Round Trope, but it is made clear that the muton soldiers in the first game weren't terribly bright and most of their tactics were programmed in rather than the result of their own smarts or imaginations.

Then again, Grey Phoenix suggests that mutons do have some kind of culture of their own, and they were, like all the alien war slaves, modded to hell and back before humanity met them, so who knows?

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Theharbo Since: Oct, 2011
Jan 8th 2021 at 2:42:50 AM •••

Notably, it's Axiom himself who describes their unaltered brains as "Mostly muscle".

ElodieHiras Since: Sep, 2010
Jan 18th 2021 at 3:36:00 PM •••

Axiom himself indeed, who is well spoken with an extensive vocabulary and is quite intelligent. Which is why I do believe that comment to be a more complicated way of calling unaltered mutons "meatheads".

Ghilz Perpetually Confused Since: Jan, 2001
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May 7th 2020 at 4:32:43 PM •••

Removed from Whisper:

  • Shipper on Deck: He seems to ship Torque with Claymore, calling their argument as "young love".

I don't think he's literally shipping them, he's being snarky. The way people will tell other people who are bickering if they are going to kiss or "mom dad stop fighting".

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KD Since: May, 2009
May 7th 2020 at 5:53:35 PM •••

I agree. I interpreted it as sarcasm. The context is important too. Torque is being a Mouthy Kid as usual, and Claymore is deliberately antagonizing her.

Sometimes that leads to a Slap-Slap-Kiss. Sometimes it's just two people who have a mutual grudge.

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