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DAONG123 Since: Jan, 2018
Sep 4th 2018 at 1:06:02 AM •••

Could Blue and Yellow Diamond have their own pages as well?

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Tomodachi Since: Aug, 2012
Sep 4th 2018 at 8:23:49 AM •••

No. They don't have enough tropes for themselves, and they don't break the overall Diamonds page.

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VulgarBee I AM KING OF THE BEACH!! Since: Jun, 2016
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Jan 16th 2018 at 11:44:12 PM •••

I think Pink is a Foil to Steven. Both are the Baby Of The Bunch and have a Pink Color Motif but Pink is more bratty and greedy while Steven isn’t.

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May 30th 2017 at 5:50:38 PM •••

Concerning Blue Diamond, several of her tropes are based solely on her appearance in "The Answer", and are treated as definitive. However, I believe it necessary to consider that "The Answer" was all from Ruby, Sapphire, and Garnet's point of view, a skewed perception. While there is definitely some fact behind Garnet's story, as it comes from a single source that has a biased opinion on Blue Diamond, it would seem incorrect to call the depiction of Blue Diamond "accurate". As both Ruby and Sapphire naturally are scared of her, as is Garnet, it only makes sense that their memory of her seems more demonized. I'm not suggesting striking the examples, but I am suggesting at least make the examples a bit more subjective. I say this because some tropes that aren't based solely on it are influenced by it. For example, I cite Took a Level in Kindness on her entry. The basis of it is that her current demeanor is the product of the trope being applied to the version of her seen in "The Answer", however, we have no definitive proof of how she was in the past. We also don't know if her order to shatter Ruby was based on the fact she defied Sapphire's prediction and fused with her. With the knowledge that she believed Rose shattered Pink Diamond, her order could have been for Ruby botching the opportunity to capture her "Sister's" killer, but that is just speculation. We only think it was because of the stated reasons due to the story told by Garnet, aka, her, Ruby, and Sapphire's interpretation of the event, which is speculation on their part. With no definitive proof, it seems inappropriate to treat the events as if they were definitive. So again, I suggest we change the examples so as they are more subjective than now. I will wait one week for input before I make the changes on my own.

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BURGINABC Since: Jun, 2012
Jun 2nd 2017 at 11:14:34 PM •••

Clearly there's several outdated entries based on "The Answer" that are called into question with her more recent behavior. That her trope list needs to be massively updated is pretty clear.

I don't even see any need for discussion on that point, though there may be some room for disagreement on the fine details of exactly what needs to be done about it...

You also make a good point about the potential for Unreliable Narrator in "The Answer" itself, in addition to the possibility of Character Development in the intervening time. I think that should be taken into account.

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