So some you might have noticed that Universe 6 had their Character pages cut. The reason for this is because none of Characters had enough tropes to justify their own pages. However the total amount of those tropes was enough to break the Universe 6 page so they can't all be put back here. That was why a subpage to hold the major U6 characters was created.
Champa and Vados were moved to this page because it fits the theme of the other universe pages.
Botamo and Auta Magetta are not major characters so do not move them.
Kefla is a fusion and does not have that many tropes so she can stay here. She is a not major character just because the people who fused her are.
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Sounds fair. Cabba, Hit and Frost are relevant thanks to Xenoverse and being major characters in the TOP, and Caulifla and Kale were the most promoted characters during the time, and lord knows they will become more used later down the line.
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
why dont we have pics of caulifla SSJ 1 and 2 forms in her folder
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We don't have a nice picture of her. While Kale does have a nice profile picture of her Berserk form, since the change is very distinctive, Caulifla SSJ official sheet is a literal recolor, and I think it would look ugly.
I suppose we shall wait until Caulifla appears in Dokkan so she have some cool picture. Or maybe wait for a nice fan art, since Frost have those.
Edited by Tomodachi To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Caulifla and Kale pictures updated. Thanks Dokkan! I still don't have normal Super Saiyan for Caulifla.
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
The Scrappy.
adding this trope for Caulifa because anyone who reads /r/dbz knows she is turning into someone who may break the base.
Feeling angry about it? Just concentrate that feeling between your shoulder blades...
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She is, at most, a Base-Breaking Character. I have hear equal praise for the character.
Besides, unlike Black, we hardly know anything about her, so I suggest to wait.
Also, Scrappy is YMMV, not a trope to put in her folder.
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Also, Older Than They Think: Goten and Trunks archieved that transformation very easily too. And before you say "Goten was conceived with Super Saiyan", that's fanon, and contradictory, Trunks archieved that transformation too and Vegeta wasn't a Super Saiyan when that happened. Caulifla is just following the trend of characters making it easy by just being powerful enough.
Also, Gotenks archieved Super Saiyan 3, something Goku needed years to obtain.
Are you noticing what I mean? She may be hated for "turning SSJ into a joke", but Goten, Trunks and Gotenks did so too in the past.
Edited by Tomodachi To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
in the manga gohan vegeta and future trunks got it off screen heck in the manga future trunks had it before gohan died even
SSJ became a joke long ago
We need to decide if this is an example of Inexplicably Awesome.
- Inexplicably Awesome: Cabba, Caulifla, and Kale all have base forms that are inexplicably much more powerful than Goku and Vegeta's strongest Super saiyan forms originally were. Cabba, Caulifla, and Kale's base forms are all much more powerful than Goku's Super Saiyan 3 form was when he originally fought Beerus on King kai's planet (before he gained Super saiyan God and absorbed some of it's power into his body, making his base and Super Saiyan forms much more powerful than previously, and even allowing him to fight on par with Beerus in his base form for a while). Even after Vegeta followed up Goku, and got himself a god form before absorbing some of the power into his body and increasing the power of his base form to the point that it was much stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks, Cabba's base form was still an even match for Vegeta's. Caulifla and Kale's base forms are strong enough that, after transforming, Caulifla thought that she could beat Cabba (and he agreed), and Kale was able to wreck Super Saiyan Cabba. Unlike Goku and Vegeta, Cabba, Caulifla, and Kale have never absorbed godly ki, so how their base forms are leagues above a regular Super Saiyan 3 in power is unknown.
I don't think it is since U6 Saiyans evolved differently from U7 Saiyans, something that is stated in both the Super manga and anime, so they wouldn't follow the same power growth as the U7 Saiyans. Plus, U6 Saiyans don't have tails. Toriyama stated that the reason why Goten and Trunks are so powerful are because they are tailless hybrids and Toriyama also said that when a Saiyan reaches a certain level of power, the tail becomes a hindrance and is no longer needed. So the U6 Saiyans evolving without tails would make them more powerful than U7 Saiyans if what Toriyama said here also holds true for U6, which I don't see a reason why it wouldn't.
Overall, I feel these factors give more than enough reason to explain why the U6 Saiyans are so powerful compared to their U7's counterparts even after Goku and Vegeta trained with Whis, so isn't an example of Inexplicably Awesome. Especially since everyone on the U6's team outside of maybe Botamo were equal to stronger than base forms Goku and Vegeta so that realm of power isn't as out there in U6, which can also contribute to the Saiyans' growth.
bobg's rebutted is: I knew that Cabba was not especially powerful compared to the other Universe 6 fighters. I was trying to say that his base form was very inexplicably powerful compared to Saiyans who had never obtained godly forms. His base form was much more powerful than a regular Super Saiyan 3's. That also holds true for Goku and Vegeta's base forms, but that's just because they absorbed some of the power of their godly forms into their bodies, making them much more powerful than they previously were. Not especially powerful compared to the other fighters in the tournament, but it's still VERY impressive that he made his base form as strong as it was without absorbing godly ki. The same holds true for Caulifla and Kale now.
bobg is slightly wrong here. Vegeta never absorbed god ki. Only Goku did after he lost Super Saiyan God. Vegeta earned god ki and his strong base form purely by training as Goku stated back in Episode 27.
What do you guys think?
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Should the "Unnamed Saiyan Woman" and Caulifla merge together? I think they are the same character.
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Caulifla
As I said on the top page: No. We are not sure if they are the same character due to different character design, and that we still don't know who the other 4 members of Team Universe 6 are.
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Except it's pretty clearly the same character and her name is a pun on Cauliflower.
Plus there was that article.
You know the amount of times those articles have commited a mistake?
Putting U8 angel with U9 Go D.
Mistaking Toppo for Jiren.
Thinking Bergamo is the one with poison.
Saying only U4 will give support to Bergamo speech.
Don't trust the magazines, and wait.
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
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Edited by Tomodachi To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Can we do a downplayed example of World's Strongest Woman to Caulifla if that’s alright?