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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jan 14th 2019 at 10:48:59 AM •••

Is it a bit weird that Chiaotzu is here, whereas Tien is listed as Supporting Cast despite the fact that, as far as I know, Tien was way more important in DB (and even moreso in DBZ when Chiaotzu does absolutely nothing)?

Like, I can't fathom how Chiaotzu wound up on this page.

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SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Jan 15th 2019 at 9:43:38 AM •••

It's most likely a result of the restructuring that Doc Jamore did a while back. Personally, I think this needs more restructuring.

My proposal is to ditch this page altogether and make a page for the Z Fighters, putting the non-fighters on Dragon Ball: Major Supporting Cast.

DocJamore Since: Jul, 2014
Jan 15th 2019 at 2:06:51 PM •••

Chiaotzu is not an important character. His relevance had ceased by the end of Dragonball. Tien however, has popped up again throughout Z, Gt, and Super. So no, he doesn't get to be on the same page as Tien.

Anybody else being put on the Major Supporting Cast page will break it and we will end up with a hundred characters with only a dozen tropes each getting their own pages again. I want to avoid that from happening.

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SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Jan 15th 2019 at 2:25:36 PM •••

The organization is still too bizarre. "Main" implies higher importance than "supporting". I'm planning on making sandboxes to better sort out the characters.

DocJamore Since: Jul, 2014
Jan 15th 2019 at 2:53:05 PM •••

How exactly is it confusing? They play a role in nearly every arc in the series. So yes they are more important than the rest of the supporting cast who Can't Catch Up.

But yes, show some sort of draft about what you are planning to do please.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jan 16th 2019 at 6:26:46 AM •••

I'm not implying Tien is less important than Chiaotzu, that we agree on. It's the fact that according to this, Chiaotzu is more important because he's listed as a "Main" character which implies more relevance than "Supporting," regardless of whether said supporting characters is a "major" supporting character or not.

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JRads47 Since: Dec, 2014
Apr 3rd 2019 at 3:03:54 PM •••

I still think this and the Major Supporting page need a cleanup.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Apr 4th 2019 at 7:25:28 AM •••

Basically, the definitions of "Main cast" and "Supporting" here seem the exact opposite of what's intuitive.

Compounded by the fact the "Main Cast" listing comes first before the "Major Supporting Cast" indicating it's more important.

It's nonsensical.

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JRads47 Since: Dec, 2014
Apr 6th 2019 at 10:48:32 AM •••

I say Main Characters should be for characters who are important in more than one series, while Supporting Characters is for characters who were important in the original Dragon Ball but are side characters in Z/Super.

Kanki_Pirate Since: Feb, 2018
Sep 21st 2018 at 7:11:02 AM •••

>Dragon Ball main characters >Puar

Really?

Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012
Apr 3rd 2015 at 9:37:27 PM •••

I'm thinking about splitting the singular "Trunks" folder into "Future Trunks" and "Present Trunks," since they're pretty distinct characters. Thoughts?

EDIT: Went ahead with it, since I didn't get a response for several days.

Edited by Dirtyblue929
jackcayman Since: Oct, 2011
Mar 22nd 2012 at 11:16:16 AM •••

Do Puar and Yamcha qualify as Heterosexual Life Partners?

Personally, I just think it's a bit weird to use this trope to describe the relationship between a human and a cat-like creature.

Well, I removed it for now, but if it's valid, I won't object to the entry being re-included.

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VeritasVierge Since: Jan, 2011
Mar 22nd 2012 at 7:33:30 PM •••

I don't think so at all. Unless bestiality is an acceptable option in the Dragon Ball world to the point that a human and animal partnership must be broken down by sexual preference to differentiate from a normal couple even if it might explain the talking Petting-Zoo People.... Yeah, I don't think so!

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Cider Since: May, 2009
Oct 5th 2013 at 9:38:20 AM •••

Paur is a shape shifter though, so that should be acceptable.

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Kyonne Since: Oct, 2012
Sep 4th 2013 at 4:01:29 PM •••

Couldn't help noticing that Gogeta's page is saying he's the strongest guy in the series But wasn't it stated that potara fusion gives more power boost than the regular fusion? In that case this title should be Vegeto's

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Cider Since: May, 2009
Oct 5th 2013 at 9:37:24 AM •••

That might be in reference to Gogeta getting to go SS 4 but there is no proof in any of the series (except the video games, perhaps) for either fusion being more powerful than the other.

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MSCC93 Since: May, 2012
VeritasVierge Since: Jan, 2011
Jan 24th 2012 at 7:19:05 AM •••

Do Gohan, Trunks and Goten count as a Warrior Prince? They are the sons of royalty. Chi-Chi is a princess and I don't really need to mention Vegeta.....

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Filby Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 15th 2012 at 2:40:17 PM •••

They weren't raised as royalty and have no special status of their own. I don't think they count.

Groovy.
lu127 MOD PaperMaster Since: Sep, 2011
PaperMaster
Jul 10th 2012 at 9:26:01 AM •••

Pulled:

  • The White Prince: While he was spoiled rotten by the standards of Saiyan culture (and pissed off by exactly how much), he nevertheless was trained at a very early age how to handle himself on the battlefield.

The White Prince has been renamed and redefined as Sheltered Aristocrat. The way this entry is written, it's not clear if he fits the new definition. Please read it before readding.

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VeritasVierge Since: Jan, 2011
Sep 8th 2011 at 7:32:22 AM •••

Can we please come to agreement where Muten Roshi belongs? He's in the main and supporting cast pages!

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zacura Since: Sep, 2011
Sep 21st 2011 at 4:41:15 PM •••

he should be in supporting cast IMO

ClassyMyths Since: Oct, 2011
Dec 9th 2011 at 12:56:27 PM •••

No he shouldn't. He should be in the Main Cast page. Just because he was Demoted to Extra for Z it doesn't change the fact that he was arguably the Tritagonist of Part 1. Vegeta, Gohan, and Trunks weren't in Part 1. Does that mean that they're not main characters? Pan wasn't in Part 1 or Z. Does that mean she wasn't a main character, Fan Discontinuity aside of course.

Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 20th 2011 at 7:34:23 PM •••

After watching an episode of Gintama and thinking it through, Yamcha's fate would definitely count as Deus Angst Machina. Its probably the worst thing that can happen to a main character in a shonen where Death Is Cheap and it all happened in the same arc!

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