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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \\\"god-like\\\" because of Aizen\\\'s statement of them \\\"violating the realm of God\\\" - meaning her power can undo what God has designated to occur on the ground level - and you have members of the 4th Division stating how her healing abilities are even greater than those of the 4th Division Vice-Captain despite only having her powers for a month at the most; her physical beauty is brought up on numerous occasions by various male characters, and children in her Middle School were jealous of her hair; her hairpins qualify as magic jewellery; her clumsiness is made a cute character trait and not a flaw; she has a DarkAndTroubledPast involving a tragic family life; she redeems Ulquiorra through her overwhelming goodness; she is the one character in the series named after a deity (the weaver Orihime from Tanabata) or any character from Japanese folklore, and she is a FriendToAllLivingThings, no matter who the individual in question is.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here to question the entry\\\'s validity:
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion (as does using the FriendToAllLivingThings trope, which doesn\\\'t apply to any Bleach character), I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite on accuracy grounds.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here to question the entry\\\'s validity:
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion (as does using the FriendToAllLivingThings trope, which doesn\\\'t apply to any Bleach character), I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite on accuracy grounds.
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \\\"god-like\\\" because of Aizen\\\'s statement of them \\\"violating the realm of God\\\" - meaning her power can undo what God has designated to occur on the ground level - and you have members of the 4th Division stating how her healing abilities are even greater than those of the 4th Division Vice-Captain despite only having her powers for a month at the most; her physical beauty is brought up on numerous occasions by various male characters, and children in her Middle School were jealous of her hair; her hairpins qualify as magic jewellery; her clumsiness is made a cute character trait and not a flaw; she has a DarkAndTroubledPast involving a tragic family life; she redeems Ulquiorra through her overwhelming goodness; she is the one character in the series named after a deity (the weaver Orihime from Tanabata) or any character from Japanese folklore, and she is a FriendToAllLivingThings, no matter who the individual in question is.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here to question the entry\\\'s validity:
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion (as does using the FriendToAllLivingThings trope, which doesn\\\'t apply to any Bleach character), I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to make it accurate.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here to question the entry\\\'s validity:
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion (as does using the FriendToAllLivingThings trope, which doesn\\\'t apply to any Bleach character), I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to make it accurate.
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \
to:
* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \\\"god-like\\\" because of Aizen\\\'s statement of them \\\"violating the realm of God\\\" - meaning her power can undo what God has designated to occur on the ground level - and you have members of the 4th Division stating how her healing abilities are even greater than those of the 4th Division Vice-Captain despite only having her powers for a month at the most; her physical beauty is brought up on numerous occasions by various male characters, and children in her Middle School were jealous of her hair; her hairpins qualify as magic jewellery; her clumsiness is made a cute character trait and not a flaw; she has a DarkAndTroubledPast involving a tragic family life; she redeems Ulquiorra through her overwhelming goodness; she is the one character in the series named after a deity (the weaver Orihime from Tanabata) or any character from Japanese folklore, and she is a FriendToAllLivingThings, no matter who the individual in question is.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here to question the entry\\\'s validity:
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion (as does using the FriendToAllLivingThings trope, which doesn\\\'t apply to any Bleach character), I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to make it an accurate example.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here to question the entry\\\'s validity:
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion (as does using the FriendToAllLivingThings trope, which doesn\\\'t apply to any Bleach character), I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to make it an accurate example.
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \
to:
* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \\\"god-like\\\" because of Aizen\\\'s statement of them \\\"violating the realm of God\\\" - meaning her power can undo what God has designated to occur on the ground level - and you have members of the 4th Division stating how her healing abilities are even greater than those of the 4th Division Vice-Captain despite only having her powers for a month at the most; her physical beauty is brought up on numerous occasions by various male characters, and children in her Middle School were jealous of her hair; her hairpins qualify as magic jewellery; her clumsiness is made a cute character trait and not a flaw; she has a DarkAndTroubledPast involving a tragic family life; she redeems Ulquiorra through her overwhelming goodness; she is the one character in the series named after a deity (the weaver Orihime from Tanabata) or any character from Japanese folklore, and she is a FriendToAllLivingThings, no matter who the individual in question is.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here to question the entry\\\'s validity:
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion (as does using the FriendToAllLivingThings trope, which doesn\\\'t apply to any Bleach character), I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite for reasons of accuracy.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here to question the entry\\\'s validity:
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion (as does using the FriendToAllLivingThings trope, which doesn\\\'t apply to any Bleach character), I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite for reasons of accuracy.
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \
to:
* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \\\"god-like\\\" because of Aizen\\\'s statement of them \\\"violating the realm of God\\\" - meaning her power can undo what God has designated to occur on the ground level - and you have members of the 4th Division stating how her healing abilities are even greater than those of the 4th Division Vice-Captain despite only having her powers for a month at the most; her physical beauty is brought up on numerous occasions by various male characters, and children in her Middle School were jealous of her hair; her hairpins qualify as magic jewellery; her clumsiness is made a cute character trait and not a flaw; she has a DarkAndTroubledPast involving a tragic family life; she redeems Ulquiorra through her overwhelming goodness; she is the one character in the series named after a deity (the weaver Orihime from Tanabata) or any character from Japanese folklore, and she is a FriendToAllLivingThings, no matter who the individual in question is.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here to question the entry\\\'s validity:
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, is misusing the FriendToAllLivingThings trope to make their point (hint: she\\\'s not that trope), and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite for reasons of accuracy.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here to question the entry\\\'s validity:
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, is misusing the FriendToAllLivingThings trope to make their point (hint: she\\\'s not that trope), and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite for reasons of accuracy.
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \
to:
* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \\\"god-like\\\" because of Aizen\\\'s statement of them \\\"violating the realm of God\\\" - meaning her power can undo what God has designated to occur on the ground level - and you have members of the 4th Division stating how her healing abilities are even greater than those of the 4th Division Vice-Captain despite only having her powers for a month at the most; her physical beauty is brought up on numerous occasions by various male characters, and children in her Middle School were jealous of her hair; her hairpins qualify as magic jewellery; her clumsiness is made a cute character trait and not a flaw; she has a DarkAndTroubledPast involving a tragic family life; she redeems Ulquiorra through her overwhelming goodness; she is the one character in the series named after a deity (the weaver Orihime from Tanabata) or any character from Japanese folklore, and she is a FriendToAllLivingThings, no matter who the individual in question is.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here to question the entry\\\'s validity:
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite for reasons of accuracy.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here to question the entry\\\'s validity:
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite for reasons of accuracy.
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \\\"god-like\\\" because of Aizen\\\'s statement of them \\\"violating the realm of God\\\" - meaning her power can undo what God has designated to occur on the ground level - and you have members of the 4th Division stating how her healing abilities are even greater than those of the 4th Division Vice-Captain despite only having her powers for a month at the most; her physical beauty is brought up on numerous occasions by various male characters, and children in her Middle School were jealous of her hair; her hairpins qualify as magic jewellery; her clumsiness is made a cute character trait and not a flaw; she has a DarkAndTroubledPast involving a tragic family life; she redeems Ulquiorra through her overwhelming goodness; she is the one character in the series named after a deity (the weaver Orihime from Tanabata) or any character from Japanese folklore, and she is a FriendToAllLivingThings, no matter who the individual in question is.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here to question the entry\\\'s validity:
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to use accurate examples.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here to question the entry\\\'s validity:
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to use accurate examples.
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \\\"god-like\\\" because of Aizen\\\'s statement of them \\\"violating the realm of God\\\" - meaning her power can undo what God has designated to occur on the ground level - and you have members of the 4th Division stating how her healing abilities are even greater than those of the 4th Division Vice-Captain despite only having her powers for a month at the most; her physical beauty is brought up on numerous occasions by various male characters, and children in her Middle School were jealous of her hair; her hairpins qualify as magic jewellery; her clumsiness is made a cute character trait and not a flaw; she has a DarkAndTroubledPast involving a tragic family life; she redeems Ulquiorra through her overwhelming goodness; she is the one character in the series named after a deity (the weaver Orihime from Tanabata) or any character from Japanese folklore, and she is a FriendToAllLivingThings, no matter who the individual in question is.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here because this example seems to be twisting fandom debates on the character, and is certainly twisting manga events.
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to use accurate examples.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here because this example seems to be twisting fandom debates on the character, and is certainly twisting manga events.
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains.
Since this entry looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to use accurate examples.
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \\\"god-like\\\" because of Aizen\\\'s statement of them \\\"violating the realm of God\\\" - meaning her power can undo what God has designated to occur on the ground level - and you have members of the 4th Division stating how her healing abilities are even greater than those of the 4th Division Vice-Captain despite only having her powers for a month at the most; her physical beauty is brought up on numerous occasions by various male characters, and children in her Middle School were jealous of her hair; her hairpins qualify as magic jewellery; her clumsiness is made a cute character trait and not a flaw; she has a DarkAndTroubledPast involving a tragic family life; she redeems Ulquiorra through her overwhelming goodness; she is the one character in the series named after a deity (the weaver Orihime from Tanabata) or any character from Japanese folklore, and she is a FriendToAllLivingThings, no matter who the individual in question is.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here because this example seems to be twisting fandom debates on the character, and is certainly twisting manga events.
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains. Since this example looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to use accurate examples.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here because this example seems to be twisting fandom debates on the character, and is certainly twisting manga events.
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level (after all having had the same training time). Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains. Since this example looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to use accurate examples.
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \
to:
* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \\\"god-like\\\" because of Aizen\\\'s statement of them \\\"violating the realm of God\\\" - meaning her power can undo what God has designated to occur on the ground level - and you have members of the 4th Division stating how her healing abilities are even greater than those of the 4th Division Vice-Captain despite only having her powers for a month at the most; her physical beauty is brought up on numerous occasions by various male characters, and children in her Middle School were jealous of her hair; her hairpins qualify as magic jewellery; her clumsiness is made a cute character trait and not a flaw; she has a DarkAndTroubledPast involving a tragic family life; she redeems Ulquiorra through her overwhelming goodness; she is the one character in the series named after a deity (the weaver Orihime from Tanabata) or any character from Japanese folklore, and she is a FriendToAllLivingThings, no matter who the individual in question is.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here because this example seems to be twisting fandom debates on the character, and is certainly twisting manga events.
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level. Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains. Since this example looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to use accurate examples.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here because this example seems to be twisting fandom debates on the character, and is certainly twisting manga events.
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level. Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she was equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains. Since this example looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to use accurate examples.
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \\\"god-like\\\" because of Aizen\\\'s statement of them \\\"violating the realm of God\\\" - meaning her power can undo what God has designated to occur on the ground level - and you have members of the 4th Division stating how her healing abilities are even greater than those of the 4th Division Vice-Captain despite only having her powers for a month at the most; her physical beauty is brought up on numerous occasions by various male characters, and children in her Middle School were jealous of her hair; her hairpins qualify as magic jewellery; her clumsiness is made a cute character trait and not a flaw; she has a DarkAndTroubledPast involving a tragic family life; she redeems Ulquiorra through her overwhelming goodness; she is the one character in the series named after a deity (the weaver Orihime from Tanabata) or any character from Japanese folklore, and she is a FriendToAllLivingThings, no matter who the individual in question is.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here because this example seems to be twisting fandom debates on the character, and is certainly twisting manga events.
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level. Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains. Since this example looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to use accurate examples.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here because this example seems to be twisting fandom debates on the character, and is certainly twisting manga events.
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level. Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains. Since this example looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to use accurate examples.
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \\\"god-like\\\" because of Aizen\\\'s statement of them \\\"violating the realm of God\\\" - meaning her power can undo what God has designated to occur on the ground level - and you have members of the 4th Division stating how her healing abilities are even greater than those of the 4th Division Vice-Captain despite only having her powers for a month at the most; her physical beauty is brought up on numerous occasions by various male characters, and children in her Middle School were jealous of her hair; her hairpins qualify as magic jewellery; her clumsiness is made a cute character trait and not a flaw; she has a DarkAndTroubledPast involving a tragic family life; she redeems Ulquiorra through her overwhelming goodness; she is the one character in the series named after a deity (the weaver Orihime from Tanabata) or any character from Japanese folklore, and she is a FriendToAllLivingThings, no matter who the individual in question is.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here because this example seems to be twisting fandom debates on the character, and is certainly twisting manga events.
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level. Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains. Since this example looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to use accurate examples.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here because this example seems to be twisting fandom debates on the character, and is certainly twisting manga events.
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level. Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains. Since this example looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to use accurate examples.
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* MarySue: One of the most divisive examples that can be argued since she fits the CommonMarySueTraits in a number of ways - although in other ways she can be debated as not being one. Her powers are considered ill-defined by many but are seen as \\\"god-like\\\" because of Aizen\\\'s statement of them \\\"violating the realm of God\\\" - meaning her power can undo what God has designated to occur on the ground level - and you have members of the 4th Division stating how her healing abilities are even greater than those of the 4th Division Vice-Captain despite only having her powers for a month at the most; her physical beauty is brought up on numerous occasions by various male characters, and children in her Middle School were jealous of her hair; her hairpins qualify as magic jewellery; her clumsiness is made a cute character trait and not a flaw; she has a DarkAndTroubledPast involving a tragic family life; she redeems Ulquiorra through her overwhelming goodness; she is the one character in the series named after a deity (the weaver Orihime from Tanabata) or any character from Japanese folklore, and she is a FriendToAllLivingThings, no matter who the individual in question is.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here because this example seems to be twisting fandom examples and is certainly twisting manga events.
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level. Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains. Since this example looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to use accurate examples.
** PossessionSue: Fan theories surrounding the character also paint the character in this light. The more common ones link her directly to the Soul King, either as her daughter (per Tanabata, with the Soul King as the Jade Emperor) or creation as an explanation for her powers (going under the \\\"Story Elements\\\" aspect of CommonMarySueTraits), despite the fact it would clash with what we already know of Inoue\\\'s backstory.
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Brought here because this example seems to be twisting fandom examples and is certainly twisting manga events.
I\\\'ve seen people discuss the limits of her power - like or dislike the character, people usually argue whether Aizen\\\'s comments are important or ignorable to the RealityWarper trope, not the MarySue trope.
I\\\'ve only seen her SS arc power level mentioned in discussions on how powerful the TrueCompanions were back then, since all the group were at, or above, lieutenant-level. Like or dislike the character, people usually debate whether she equal to her TrueCompanions or much weaker. Again, not a MarySue debate.
The Middle School example is misrepresented; she was bullied for her unusual hair colour, same as Ichigo. Clumsiness and DarkAndTroubledPast are barely relevant in the manga, and barely relevant to like/dislike debates that I\\\'m aware of. Her beauty has been mentioned a couple of times, rarely as the point of a scene, except for one occasion where it was PlayedForLaughs. The debates I\\\'ve seen have been about whether it\\\'s InformedAttractiveness, not MarySue.
I\\\'ve never seen the meaning of her name singled out for debates, except in the RealityWarper debates, especially given that she\\\'s not the only character with a special name, and she\\\'s definitely not the only character with a name that comes from, or is inspired by, folklore, religion or historical heroes/villains. Since this example looks like it\\\'s twisting fandom discussions, and the opening sentence alone makes it look like a single troper\\\'s personal opinion, I\\\'ve brought the example here to see if it\\\'s a valid entry.
If it is a valid entry, I would suggest a rewrite to use accurate examples.
