History YMMV / Bleach

19th Jun '17 3:17:36 PM bandersnitch
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** Yammy Llargo, previously known for being a bumbling oaf with more mouth than brains, is revealed to be [[spoiler: the ''0th'' Espada, not the 10th as previously claimed.]] It had been directly stated before this that the Espada [[spoiler: go from 1 to 10]]. A databook tried to [[HandWave explain this]] as Yammy simply having the most raw power of the Espada without any special abilties, hence [[spoiler: why Byakuya and Kenpachi were able to beat him so easily]], but this ignores that Kenpachi wins most of his fights despite being the same way, and it's been stated that reiatsu is the most important factor in a fight between spiritual beings.
** Ichigo's defeat of Ulquiorra after the latter entered Segunda Etapa. Ulquiorra basically one-shot him and as he was dying he suddenly revived by transforming into an ultra-powerful Hollow that casually curbstomped Ulquiorra without any explanation or {{Foreshadowing}} beforehand. It was much later given an explanation, but at the time, that transformation broke a significant number of rules that Bleach had thus far established.
19th Jun '17 8:43:51 AM Austin
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** Yammy Llargo, previously known for being a bumbling oaf with more mouth than brains, is revealed to be [[spoiler: the ''0th'' Espada, not the 10th as previously claimed.]] It had been directly stated before this that the Espada [[spoiler: go from 1 to 10]]. A databook tried to [[HandWave explain this]] as Yammy simply having the most raw power of the Espada without any special abilties, hence [[spoiler: why Byakuya and Kenpachi were able to beat him so easily]], but this ignores that Kenpachi wins most of his fights despite being the same way, and it's been stated that reiatsu is the most important factor in a fight between spiritual beings.
** Ichigo's defeat of Ulquiorra after the latter entered Segunda Etapa. Ulquiorra basically one-shot him and as he was dying he suddenly revived by transforming into an ultra-powerful Hollow that casually curbstomped Ulquiorra without any explanation or {{Foreshadowing}} beforehand. It was much later given an explanation, but at the time, that transformation broke a significant number of rules that Bleach had thus far established.
19th Jun '17 3:57:53 AM Scabbard
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* DracoInLeatherPants: He does plenty of awful things throughout the series[[note]]He stabs through Rukia's gut; beats Ichigo to a pulp; cared very little about his Fraccion dying; chokes Orihime for speaking out against him; grabs Rukia's face and nearly shoots her with a ''point-blank Cero''; took explosive potshots at Nel and Orihime just to make Ichigo to protect them so he could get wounded; and only wanted to revive Ichigo just to kill him again.[[/note]], and his overall personality is petty and sadistic. While Grimmjow did have a few PetTheDog moments and showed some hints of a warrior's honor, he's ultimately just as much of asshole as most of the other villains in Bleach.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: He does plenty of awful things throughout the series[[note]]He stabs through Rukia's gut; beats Ichigo to a pulp; cared very little about his Fraccion dying; chokes Orihime for speaking out against him; grabs Rukia's face and nearly shoots her with a ''point-blank Cero''; took explosive potshots at Nel and Orihime just to make Ichigo to protect them so he could get wounded; and only wanted to revive Ichigo just to kill him again.[[/note]], and his overall personality is petty and sadistic. While Grimmjow did have a few PetTheDog moments and showed some hints of a warrior's honor, he's ultimately just as much of asshole as most of only slightly better than the other villains in Bleach.likes of Nnoitra but certainly not as sympathetic as Harribel.
19th Jun '17 3:56:24 AM Scabbard
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: The only one who can cause greater rifts in a fanbase is [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Sasuke Uchiha]]. Similarly with the latter, it's a case of ValuesDissonance, given he doesn't have this status in Japan or Europe. To a large portion of the American Fanbase]], he's AmericansHateTingle.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: The only one who can cause greater rifts in a fanbase is [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Sasuke Uchiha]]. Similarly with the latter, it's a case of ValuesDissonance, given he doesn't have this status in Japan or Europe. To a large portion of the American Fanbase]], Fanbase, he's AmericansHateTingle.
19th Jun '17 3:55:46 AM Scabbard
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: His morality is probably one of the longest-running debates in the Bleach fandom. Is he wholly benevolent and only concerned with stopping the bad guys? Or is he a ManipulativeBastard who's only differentiated from Aizen by having a lot less ambition? Do his plans involve manipulating people because they're the best he can think of? Or does he not care about their well-being enough to think of better options? Does he feel guilty when his plans fail and people get hurt because of them? Or is he unconcerned as long as the endgame is successful? It doesn't help that none of the people who have been hurt by his plans have ever called him out on it, and he remains as guarded to the reader as he does to the other characters, making it hard to determine if he's even supposed to come off a particular way. It has been implied a couple of times that Ichigo doesn't truly trust him (Hhe hesitates when Ginjo asks him if he truly knows anything about Kisuke, and he outright admits near the start of the last arc that Urahara doesn't tell him anything).

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: His morality is probably one of the longest-running debates in the Bleach fandom. Is he wholly benevolent and only concerned with stopping the bad guys? Or is he a ManipulativeBastard who's only differentiated from Aizen by having a lot less ambition? Do his plans involve manipulating people because they're the best he can think of? Or does he not care about their well-being enough to think of better options? Does he feel guilty when his plans fail and people get hurt because of them? Or is he unconcerned as long as the endgame is successful? It doesn't help that none of the people who have been hurt by his plans have ever called him out on it, and he remains as guarded to the reader as he does to the other characters, making it hard to determine if he's even supposed to come off a particular way. It has been implied a couple of times that Ichigo doesn't truly trust him (Hhe (he hesitates when Ginjo asks him if he truly knows anything about Kisuke, and he outright admits near the start of the last arc that Urahara doesn't tell him anything).
19th Jun '17 3:55:37 AM Scabbard
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: His morality is probably one of the longest-running debates in the Bleach fandom. Is he wholly benevolent and only concerned with stopping the bad guys? Or is he a ManipulativeBastard who's only differentiated from Aizen by having a lot less ambition? Do his plans involve manipulating people because they're the best he can think of? Or does he not care about their well-being enough to think of better options? Does he feel guilty when his plans fail and people get hurt because of them? Or is he unconcerned as long as the endgame is successful? It doesn't help that none of the people who have been hurt by his plans have ever called him out on it, and he remains as guarded to the reader as he does to the other characters, making it hard to determine if he's even supposed to come off a particular way. It has been implied a couple of times that Ichigo doesn't truly trust him (He hesitates when Ginjo asks him if he truly knows anything about Kisuke, and he outright admits near the start of the last arc that Urahara doesn't tell him anything).

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: His morality is probably one of the longest-running debates in the Bleach fandom. Is he wholly benevolent and only concerned with stopping the bad guys? Or is he a ManipulativeBastard who's only differentiated from Aizen by having a lot less ambition? Do his plans involve manipulating people because they're the best he can think of? Or does he not care about their well-being enough to think of better options? Does he feel guilty when his plans fail and people get hurt because of them? Or is he unconcerned as long as the endgame is successful? It doesn't help that none of the people who have been hurt by his plans have ever called him out on it, and he remains as guarded to the reader as he does to the other characters, making it hard to determine if he's even supposed to come off a particular way. It has been implied a couple of times that Ichigo doesn't truly trust him (He (Hhe hesitates when Ginjo asks him if he truly knows anything about Kisuke, and he outright admits near the start of the last arc that Urahara doesn't tell him anything).
19th Jun '17 3:54:43 AM Scabbard
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* DracoInLeatherPants: He does plenty of awful things throughout the series[[note]]He stabs through Rukia's gut; beats Ichigo to a pulp; cared very little about his Fraccion dying; chokes Orihime for speaking out against him; grabs Rukia's face and nearly shoots her with a ''point-blank Cero''; took explosive potshots at Nel and Orihime just to make Ichigo to protect them so he could get wounded; and only wanted to revive Ichigo just to kill him again.[[/note]], and his overall personality is petty and sadistic. Despite not being any less of an asshole than most of the villains in Bleach, many fans treat him as an AntiHero who only wanted a good fight (that's actually more Zaraki's schtick than Grimmjow).

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* DracoInLeatherPants: He does plenty of awful things throughout the series[[note]]He stabs through Rukia's gut; beats Ichigo to a pulp; cared very little about his Fraccion dying; chokes Orihime for speaking out against him; grabs Rukia's face and nearly shoots her with a ''point-blank Cero''; took explosive potshots at Nel and Orihime just to make Ichigo to protect them so he could get wounded; and only wanted to revive Ichigo just to kill him again.[[/note]], and his overall personality is petty and sadistic. Despite not being any less While Grimmjow did have a few PetTheDog moments and showed some hints of an a warrior's honor, he's ultimately just as much of asshole than as most of the other villains in Bleach, many fans treat him as an AntiHero who only wanted a good fight (that's actually more Zaraki's schtick than Grimmjow).Bleach.
19th Jun '17 2:15:53 AM Scabbard
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** The series is littered with tons of fights that, while interesting and offering ''some'' character development, halts and pads the story tremendously. Happened first in the Soul Society arc. Then in the Hueco Mundo arc. Then in the Battle of Karakura arc. Then ''again'' in the final fight against Aizen. And that if you don't count the arcs from Hueco Mundo to Aizen as [[UpToEleven a single arc]] (The anime named it "The Arrancar Saga"). To be fair on Kubo, it was mostly due to ExecutiveMeddling.

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** The series is littered with tons of fights that, while interesting and offering ''some'' character development, halts and pads the story tremendously. Happened first in the Soul Society arc. Then in the Hueco Mundo arc. Then in the Battle of Karakura arc. Then ''again'' in the final fight against Aizen. And that if you don't count the arcs from Hueco Mundo to Aizen as [[UpToEleven a single arc]] (The (the anime named it "The Arrancar Saga"). To be fair on Kubo, it was mostly due to ExecutiveMeddling.
17th Jun '17 2:32:46 PM Wyldchyld
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* InformedWrongness: When Grimmjow and his Fraccion invade Karakura Town, Ichigo is indirectly berated by Rukia for wanting Chad to stay away from the fight. This is after he just barely saves Chad from Grimmjow's weakest Fraccion.
17th Jun '17 9:35:21 AM nombretomado
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** One piece of chapter art had Ichigo dressed as a sentai character. Guess [[JohnnyYongBosch who got to]] [[PowerRangers voice him in America?]]

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** One piece of chapter art had Ichigo dressed as a sentai character. Guess [[JohnnyYongBosch [[Creator/JohnnyYongBosch who got to]] [[PowerRangers voice him in America?]]
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