History YMMV / Bleach

23rd Jul '16 10:10:13 PM HamburgerTime
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** Who's a better BigBad between Aizen and Yhwach. Yhwach supporters admire him for his [[PragmaticVillainy ruthless pragmatism]], his [[TheChessmaster planning ability spanning centuries]], and [[spoiler: succeeding where Aizen failed]] while deriding Aizen as an [[InvincibleVillain overpowered]] SmugSnake who [[GambitRoulette relies too much on luck]]. Aizen supporters find his ComplexityAddiction, [[EvilIsHammy theatricality]], and [[DracoInLeatherPants good looks]] to be [[EvilIsCool extremely entertaining]], while dismissing Yhwach as a [[FlatCharacter bland]] borderline GenericDoomsdayVillain whose type is dime-a-dozen in manga.
5th Jul '16 6:42:39 PM Antwan
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%%* EvilIsSexy: More like Creepy Sexy.
%%* MemeticMolester: This is practically canon considering what he does to poor Nemu.
%%* MoralEventHorizon

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%%* * EvilIsSexy: More like Creepy Sexy.
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A very creepy sexy, but fans still dig his looks, especially his "glasses".
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MemeticMolester: This is practically canon considering what he does Nemu forcibly giving birth to poor Nemu.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Eating one of his own subordinates with no remorse.



'''Yammy Llargo'''
* HilariousInHindsight: The whole Cero Espada deal. Fans have been mocking the idea that Yammy could be the strongest of the Espada despite his terrible track record in fights... then it turns out he '''is'''.



* EpilepticTrees: One of the mysterious "spoils of war" Mayuri collected from Szayelaporro is believed by many to be her remains. Kubo has said the spoils are important, and we ''have'' seen a body on Mayuri's table in the final arc after the Vandenreich invasion, so we'll see if it's her.
** Confirmed. Mayuri has revived her, Luppi, Dordoni and Charlotte.

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* EpilepticTrees: One of the mysterious "spoils of war" Mayuri collected from Szayelaporro is believed by many to be her remains. Kubo has said the spoils are important, and we ''have'' seen a body on Mayuri's table This was confirmed in the final arc after the second Vandenreich invasion, so we'll see if it's her.
** Confirmed. Mayuri has revived her, Luppi, Dordoni and Charlotte.
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%%* NightmareFuel: Allon. [[NightmareRetardant Unless you're put off by his face.]]

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%%* * NightmareFuel: Their summoned monster, Allon. [[NightmareRetardant Unless you're put off by his face.]]
30th Jun '16 7:47:45 PM KingZeal
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** Ichigo's defeat of Ulquiorra after the latter entered Segunda Etapa. Ulquiorra basically one-shot him and as he was dying he suddenly revived by transforming into an ultra-powerful Hollow that casually curbstomped Ulquiorra without any explanation or {{Foreshadowing}} beforehand. It was much later given an explanation, but at the time, that transformation broke a significant number of rules that Bleach had thus far established.
30th Jun '16 9:30:10 AM Eagal
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* CompleteMonster: One of the most depraved and horrific characters in this series.



* EvilIsSexy: More like Creepy Sexy.
* MemeticMolester: This is practically canon considering what he does to poor Nemu.
* MoralEventHorizon: Poor, ''poor'' Nemu.

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* %%* EvilIsSexy: More like Creepy Sexy.
* %%* MemeticMolester: This is practically canon considering what he does to poor Nemu.
* MoralEventHorizon: Poor, ''poor'' Nemu.%%* MoralEventHorizon



'''Yammy Llargo'''
* HilariousInHindsight: The whole [[spoiler:Cero Espada]] deal.
* MemeticBadass: More of a Memetic {{Troll}}, really.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Many people thought this after her final scene.

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* %%* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Many people thought this after her final scene.



* NightmareFuel: Allon. [[NightmareRetardant Unless you're put off by his face.]]

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* %%* NightmareFuel: Allon. [[NightmareRetardant Unless you're put off by his face.]]



* CrazyAwesome: See MemeticMutation.
* MemeticMutation: '''''BWAHAHAHA!'''''

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* CrazyAwesome: See MemeticMutation.
* MemeticMutation: '''''BWAHAHAHA!'''''
His signature '''''BWAHAHAHA!''''' laugh.
30th Jun '16 9:22:58 AM Eagal
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* [[HoYay Ho Yay[=/=]Les Yay]]: [[HoYay/{{Bleach}} Also has its own page]].

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* [[HoYay Ho Yay[=/=]Les Yay]]: HoYay: [[HoYay/{{Bleach}} Also has its own page]].



* DracoInLeatherPants[=/=]MisaimedFandom: He was supposed to be creepy and off-putting, but gained a rather significant fangirl following regardless. It's gotten worse since [[spoiler:his betrayal of Aizen. Several fans have gone so far as to call him a "good guy," despite his psychological torture of Rukia, his gleeful bifurcation of Hiyori, and the fact that he attacked Aizen for Rangiku's sake and no one else's. You could argue that he's an anti-hero, but flat-out calling him a "good guy" is going too far.]] And it's also even more blatant when fans claim that [[spoiler:Rangiku is a slut or an ungrateful bitch for moving on with her life and not mourning him for the rest of her life.]]

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* DracoInLeatherPants[=/=]MisaimedFandom: DracoInLeatherPants: He was supposed to be creepy and off-putting, but gained a rather significant fangirl following regardless. It's gotten worse since [[spoiler:his betrayal of Aizen. Several fans have gone so far as to call him a "good guy," despite his psychological torture of Rukia, his gleeful bifurcation of Hiyori, and the fact that he attacked Aizen for Rangiku's sake and no one else's. You could argue that he's an anti-hero, but flat-out calling him a "good guy" is going too far.]] And it's also even more blatant when fans claim that [[spoiler:Rangiku is a slut or an ungrateful bitch for moving on with her life and not mourning him for the rest of her life.]]



* CrazyAwesome / EvilIsCool: His MaskedLuchador gimmick was lame at first, but a good part of the fandom has embraced it by this point.

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* CrazyAwesome / EvilIsCool: CrazyAwesome: His MaskedLuchador gimmick was lame at first, but a good part of the fandom has embraced it by this point.



* TheScrappy [=/=] DamselScrappy: Rurichiyo Kasumiōji is a spoiled brat of a rich kid who's prone to being kidnapped just to keep her unpopular Filler arc going. Fans also find her Third-Person Person quirk annoying to listen to, and just plain don't like how useless she was in said arc.

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* TheScrappy [=/=] DamselScrappy: Rurichiyo Kasumiōji is a spoiled brat of a rich kid who's prone to being kidnapped just to keep her unpopular Filler arc going. Fans also find her Third-Person Person quirk annoying to listen to, and just plain don't like how useless she was in said arc.
30th Jun '16 9:21:40 AM Eagal
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* CrazyAwesome / EvilIsCool: His MaskedLuchador gimmick was lame at first, but a good part of the fandom has embraced it by this point

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* CrazyAwesome / EvilIsCool: His MaskedLuchador gimmick was lame at first, but a good part of the fandom has embraced it by this point
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'''Guenael Lee'''
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Lee had an interesting ability, a novel appearance and a chance to give Yachiru some time in the spotlight. He accomplished the latter, but once that was done, he was casually thrown away in favor of Gremmy, who himself just existed to further extol how amazing Kenpachi is.
29th Jun '16 7:37:31 AM KingZeal
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* BaseBreaker: The revelation that [[spoiler:the original "Zangetsu" is actually Ichigo's Quincy powers and the Hollow is actually his real zanpakuto.]] Some find it an interesting twist that, unlike many of the series' other plot developments, actually had a good deal of foreshadowing. Others think that it's overly convoluted, that it doesn't make sense ''in spite'' of the foreshadowing, and that it ruins Zangetsu's character by [[spoiler:turning him from a nurturing mentor into a far more sinister figure, since he claims that he was originally planning to ''kill'' Ichigo if he became a shinigami.]]

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* BaseBreaker: The revelation that [[spoiler:the original "Zangetsu" is actually Ichigo's Quincy powers and the Hollow is actually his real zanpakuto.]] Some find it an interesting twist that, unlike many of the series' other plot developments, actually had a good deal of foreshadowing. Others think that it's overly convoluted, that it doesn't make sense ''in spite'' of the foreshadowing, and that it ruins Zangetsu's character by [[spoiler:turning him from a nurturing mentor into a far more sinister figure, since he claims that he was originally planning to ''kill'' Ichigo if he became a shinigami.]] Others question much of the so-called "foreshadowing" or pick out instances where it was contradicted. For example, there are multiple times when [[spoiler:Ichigo's Inner Hollow professes to not have a name, and even refers to the Old Man as "Zangetsu" multiple times.]]
29th Jun '16 7:32:49 AM KingZeal
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Pick a ''Bleach'' character at random. There's at least a 20% chance that at least some fans feel this way. Not helped at all by Kubo's tendency to suddenly introduce a ton of new characters and not really go anywhere with most of them either.
29th Jun '16 7:31:34 AM KingZeal
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: [[spoiler: The first Kenpachi, the original Yachiru and the worst criminal of the Soul Society, is perfectly willing to die so she could power up Zaraki]]. Additionally, her backstory remains undeveloped. [[spoiler: We're not told how she got from being the worst criminal in Soul Society to the motherly healer seen throughout the series and it's not explored which, if either, should be considered the "real" personality.]] Further, many fans feel that Zaraki's improved abilities are more of a PowerUpLetdown, since he's supposed to be so strong that nothing can stop him, and yet he keeps being taken out either by enemies even [[spoiler:his zanpakutou spirit says he should be capable of beating alone]] or by his own powers backfiring.
28th Jun '16 10:49:33 PM Jmariofan77
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