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The King of Vale's entry:
* GreaterScopeParagon: At the end of the Great War, he turned down the chance to single handedly rule all of Remnant to instead build a system of world government where all four major kingdoms are united, and the establishment of Huntsmen Academies to help protect the peace which is regularly celebrated through the Vytal Festival. Eighty years later, this Alliance is still in place, and it's pricely this unity he established that Salem and her subordinates are working to destroy in the present events.
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The King of Vale\'s entry:
* GreaterScopeParagon: At the end of the Great War, he turned down the chance to single handedly rule all of Remnant to instead build a system of world government where all four major kingdoms are united, and the establishment of Huntsmen Academies to help protect the peace which is regularly celebrated through the Vytal Festival. Eighty years later, this Alliance is still in place, and it\'s pricely this unity he established that Salem and her subordinates are working to destroy in the present events.
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Completely understand why this was added, however, we have a few hints that he's much more involved in the plot than surface appearances suggest.
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Completely understand why this was added, however, we have a few hints that he\'s much more involved in the plot than surface appearances suggest.
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Now, Qrow says that Ozpin's predecessor (headmaster of Beacon) founded the academies.
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Now, Qrow says that Ozpin\'s predecessor (headmaster of Beacon) founded the academies.
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Ozpin tells Oscar that he (Ozpin) helped build Haven Academy and the current headmaster of Haven is someone he gifted a tea set to long ago. He's been encouraging Oscar to go to Haven to meet the headmaster. Qrow, meanwhile, has told the protagonists that he doesn't know what to do next without Ozpin, so they need to go and ask the Haven headmaster for help.
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Ozpin tells Oscar that he (Ozpin) helped build Haven Academy and the current headmaster of Haven is someone he gifted a tea set to long ago. He\'s been encouraging Oscar to go to Haven to meet the headmaster. Qrow, meanwhile, has told the protagonists that he doesn\'t know what to do next without Ozpin, so they need to go and ask the Haven headmaster for help.
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It's not confirmed, but it's strongly implied that Ozpin's predecessor was the King of Vale himself and that the Haven headmaster may have been one of the king's trusted confidantes. It's also implied that the King of Vale merged with Ozpin and now with Oscar.
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It\'s not confirmed, but it\'s strongly implied that Ozpin\'s predecessor was the King of Vale himself and that the Haven headmaster may have been one of the king\'s trusted confidantes. It\'s also implied that the King of Vale merged with Ozpin and now with Oscar (which is why people are thinking the King\'s royal sceptre is Ozpin\'s cane).
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If this isn't the case, I agree that he'd be a GreaterScopeParagon, but there are enough hints for us to speculate that there's a real chance that he's deeply involved in the plotline. I think we need to hold off on this trope for a while until we know what the truth is about Ozpin and Oscar.
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If this isn\'t the case, I agree that he\'d be a GreaterScopeParagon, but there are enough hints for us to speculate that there\'s a real chance that he\'s deeply involved in the plotline. I think we need to hold off on this trope for a while until we know what the truth is about Ozpin and Oscar.
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The King of Vale's entry:
* GreaterScopeParagon: At the end of the Great War, he turned down the chance to single handedly rule all of Remnant to instead build a system of world government where all four major kingdoms are united, and the establishment of Huntsmen Academies to help protect the peace which is regularly celebrated through the Vytal Festival. Eighty years later, this Alliance is still in place, and it's pricely this unity he established that Salem and her subordinates are working to destroy in the present events.
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The King of Vale\'s entry:
* GreaterScopeParagon: At the end of the Great War, he turned down the chance to single handedly rule all of Remnant to instead build a system of world government where all four major kingdoms are united, and the establishment of Huntsmen Academies to help protect the peace which is regularly celebrated through the Vytal Festival. Eighty years later, this Alliance is still in place, and it\'s pricely this unity he established that Salem and her subordinates are working to destroy in the present events.
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Completely understand why this was added, however, we have a few hints that he's much more involved in the plot than surface appearances suggest.
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Completely understand why this was added, however, we have a few hints that he\'s much more involved in the plot than surface appearances suggest.
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Now, Qrow says that Ozpin's predecessor (headmaster of Beacon) founded the academies.
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Now, Qrow says that Ozpin\'s predecessor (headmaster of Beacon) founded the academies.
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Ozpin tells Oscar that he (Ozpin) helped build Haven Academy and the current headmaster of Haven is someone he gifted a tea set to long ago. He's been encouraging Oscar to go to Haven to meet the headmaster.
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Ozpin tells Oscar that he (Ozpin) helped build Haven Academy and the current headmaster of Haven is someone he gifted a tea set to long ago. He\'s been encouraging Oscar to go to Haven to meet the headmaster. Qrow, meanwhile, has told the protagonists that he doesn\'t know what to do next without Ozpin, so they need to go and ask the Haven headmaster for help.
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Qrow, meanwhile, has told the protagonists that he doesn't know what to do next without Ozpin, so they need to go and ask the Haven headmaster for help.
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It\'s not confirmed, but it\'s strongly implied that Ozpin\'s predecessor was the King of Vale himself and that the Haven headmaster may have been one of the king\'s trusted confidantes. It\'s also implied that the King of Vale merged with Ozpin and now with Oscar.
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It's not confirmed, but it's strongly implied that Ozpin's predecessor was the King of Vale himself. It's also implied - given what's going on with Ozpin and Oscar - that the King of Vale is Ozpin himself and, currently, Oscar.
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If this isn\'t the case, I agree that he\'d be a GreaterScopeParagon, but there are enough hints for us to speculate that there\'s a real chance that he\'s deeply involved in the plotline. I think we need to hold off on this trope for a while until we know what the truth is about Ozpin and Oscar.
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If this isn't the case, I agree that he'd be a GreaterScopeParagon, but there are enough hints for us to speculate that there's a real chance that he's deeply involved in the plotline. I think we need to hold off on this trope for a while until we know what the truth is about Ozpin and Oscar.

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The Hollow's power DID show up against Kenpachi, Byakuya, etc. Failing to notice the mask-shaped aura against Kenpachi is one thing, but how do you miss Ichigo turning Hollow against Byakuya?
Those instances were the very power we're talking about, just a fraction of it.
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The Hollow\'s power DID show up against Kenpachi, Byakuya, etc. Failing to notice the mask-shaped aura against Kenpachi is one thing, but how do you miss Ichigo turning Hollow against Byakuya?
Those instances were the very power we\'re talking about, just a fraction of it.
There IS no \"new Hollow\". It\'s the same Hollow Ichigo that just looks different because Ichigo himself is stronger.
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