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laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
26th Apr, 2021 02:41:06 PM

That Far Cry Primal example is definitely misuse, I'd cut it right there. The trope description is fairly clear that the entire party has to die.

To your earlier point, from my reading of the trope, I don't think it matters how the party dies, only that their actions led to their deaths, whether from incompetence or just bad luck or the choice to fight a monster way above their level.

Personally, I'm not sure that the non-gaming/video game examples are applicable to this trope, but that's prob another discussion for another day.

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PeppermintTwist Since: Jun, 2015
26th Apr, 2021 03:09:36 PM

"Total Party Kill" is definitely gamer slang far outside of this wiki, and is often used in all sorts of situations where an entire party is killed rapidly with no chance to retaliate.

I know that in some cases, there being ways to avoid it is part of the point—a Puzzle Boss-y deal. The dangerous attacks are meant to ensure you brought ways to deal with certain types of damage, or that you've done enough Level Grinding. That kinda thing.

Ngamer01 Since: Oct, 2010
26th Apr, 2021 03:26:20 PM

Sounds like the description of Total Party Kill is in need of tweaking because it says the party has to die due to incompentence (as ignorance is no excuse). Tropers seem to be using it instead as a pothole for any time a party gets slain or a party meets a foe (or foes) that can easily kill them.

Narrative-wise, Total Party Kill is supposed to show a particular enemy or boss means business like for example the heroes see fallen knights in a dragon's lair as the heroes arrive to kill the dragon. The remains is to show the dragon can easily kill the heroes regardless if the heroes are ready for it or not.

GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
26th Apr, 2021 04:08:16 PM

If it's not completely clear what the definition is, it might be worth taking to Trope Talk. If things still don't work out if it's taken there, then it might need to be taken to the Trope Repair Shop with a Wick Check.

Edited by GastonRabbit Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
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