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mistertapman95 Since: Sep, 2015
25th Jul, 2017 05:59:40 AM

An example is in the Teen Titans cartoon, when Robin joins Slade to save the lives of the other Titans. Also in the Star Wars Extended Universe when Luke becomes Sidious' apprentice. I don't mean a Face-Heel turn. They have to be the Hero and the Dragon at the same time.

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Freezer Since: Jan, 2001
25th Jul, 2017 07:22:06 AM

Fake Defector

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mistertapman95 Since: Sep, 2015
25th Jul, 2017 08:04:16 AM

That's one form it can take, but I was wondering if there was a trope for any time the Hero acts as the Dragon and is still the Hero, despite the fact. There's a different kind of example in The World Ends With You, but I don't know what the spoiler etiquette is here.

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Freezer Since: Jan, 2001
25th Jul, 2017 08:06:52 AM

That's probably Honor Before Reason (Good guy works with the bad guys voluntarily for his own reasons) or a related trope.

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mistertapman95 Since: Sep, 2015
25th Jul, 2017 08:37:29 AM

That assumes the Hero knows they're helping the Big Bad. Some forms of this trope would be when the Hero has no idea they're the Dragon.

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MetaFour MOD (Old Master)
25th Jul, 2017 04:49:12 PM

Unwittingly helping the Big Bad means the hero is an Unwitting Pawn, or the big bad is the Treacherous Advisor, or maybe both.

The hero knowingly helping, because he needs the Big Bad for his own purposes, would probably fall under Enemy Mine.

I didn't write any of that.
Scorpion451 (Edited uphill both ways)
25th Jul, 2017 06:58:55 PM

Can be Forced into Evil sometimes- the teen titans example you mentioned sounds like it would be this.

Edited by Scorpion451
mistertapman95 Since: Sep, 2015
26th Jul, 2017 07:34:36 AM

See, those are the specific tropes, but I was wondering if there was a broader trope that encompasses all of those.

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Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
26th Jul, 2017 05:58:36 PM

Dragon with an Agenda would cover the "dragon has different motives than the big bad" situations, but there doesn't appear to be one singular trope where it's specifically the Hero acting as the Dragon. The examples you cited all have different motivations for doing so.

Edited by Synchronicity
mistertapman95 Since: Sep, 2015
27th Jul, 2017 05:57:26 AM

If I were to TLP it, do you think it'd be a useful trope?

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