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Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
3rd Mar, 2017 06:28:31 AM

Tear Jerker and Awesome subpages should most definitely not have spoiler tags. The tags are there so someone casually visiting the article (to determine if they might want to experience the work, for example) won't get unwanted spoilers, but if they're visiting the Awesome subpage, they can be presumed to have no concern for spoilers.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
3rd Mar, 2017 06:35:20 AM

On one-shot works I can see, but what about a Long Runner or something? I could see someone watching a show and wanting to see if, say, the first season finale was on there but getting spoiled by the seventh season.

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Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
3rd Mar, 2017 06:37:21 AM

How could that possibly work, then, without spoiler-tagging literally everything after the first season? You cannot depend on the viewer having gotten to any particular point in a serial work when writing an article that encompasses the entire work. I've seen articles that try, and they end up being about 90% spoiler tags.

No, a person visiting our article for a work must accept that some spoilers will be present. It's unavoidable. Only the most significant events should be tagged, and only on the main page and the primary subpages (Characters, YMMV, etc.). Sugar Wiki and Darth Wiki subpages can and will have untagged spoilers, and we shouldn't try to change that.

Edit: Now, I realize that this is probably not how most of them are constructed, and I don't want to set off a wave of frenetic cleanup efforts. I'm not making a huge policy bombshell here, just stating that nobody should ever expect spoilers to be tagged on those subpages. There is no way we could possibly enforce a strictly tag-free policy on them.

Edited by Fighteer "It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Barnstoneworth Since: Feb, 2017
3rd Mar, 2017 07:11:15 AM

Okay, if a page has spoilers hidden (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tearjerker/DumbingOfAge is the page) I want to keep that same tone.

And "significant" to me means: Coming out, and derailed wedding plans. Other examples hidden there include psychiatric hospitalization, armed kidnapping, suicide attempts, extreme bigotry, and traumatic flashbacks to violence.

There are plenty of neat instances there, where a quote links to a comic and the game isn't given away.

Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
3rd Mar, 2017 07:16:27 AM

A lot of those are bad examples:

  • Examples should not be completely blanked out. Otherwise a user has to reveal the spoiler to know if it's something they want to read or not.
  • Examples that consist of external links violate our Weblinks Are Not Examples policy and should be removed.
  • Examples that consist of reaction quotes but never explain the actual event being reacted to are zero-context and should be removed.

If there is a timeline or progression of events that can be spoiled depending on where you are in the series, then folderizing examples by season or chapter or whatever makes sense. This way you avoid future spoilers for people who are only up to a certain point, and you don't have to make the article look like it was attacked by a CIA redacter on a cocaine binge.

Edited by Fighteer "It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Barnstoneworth Since: Feb, 2017
3rd Mar, 2017 12:53:58 PM

Reading what you've put down, I'll give it a shot accordingly (ETA) for that Dof A.

Edited by Barnstoneworth
jameygamer Since: May, 2014
3rd Mar, 2017 02:17:00 PM

Well, there are a lot of covered spoilers on the Tear Jerker page of TMNT 2012. What do you want to do about it? Remove the spoilers.

Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
3rd Mar, 2017 04:18:45 PM

Since the article is organized by season already, I'd say to de-tag it.

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Candi Since: Aug, 2012
3rd Mar, 2017 07:47:16 PM

There's a tool for stripping out all spoilers on a page on Itty Bitty Wiki Tools.

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jameygamer Since: May, 2014
3rd Mar, 2017 08:14:27 PM

Neat. Learn something new every day here.

In that case, I'll detag the spoilers and add a spoiler warning on the tearjerker page.

jameygamer Since: May, 2014
3rd Mar, 2017 08:18:27 PM

Well, isn't that swell. I can't access the "spoiler stripping" tool; it goes to a white page. I may need to remove cookies from my computer, but I want to see if anyone else has this problem.

I'm removing the spoilers manually.

Edited by jameygamer
jameygamer Since: May, 2014
3rd Mar, 2017 08:35:04 PM

I got rid of the spoilers on TMNT 2012's tearjerker page, and corrected a few grammar errors.

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