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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
23rd Jun, 2021 09:49:07 AM

Judging by the tabs, it has Comic Book, Series, and Video Game...so Franchise is warranted.

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Chabal2 Since: Jan, 2010
23rd Jun, 2021 09:54:16 AM

But does that mean that the tropes from all three go on the same page?

shadowblack Since: Jun, 2010
23rd Jun, 2021 09:55:51 AM

No, it doesn't. What gave you that idea?

Walkinshadows Since: Jun, 2012
23rd Jun, 2021 09:59:18 AM

^ All the comic book tropes were moved to the franchise page without any indication whether they only apply to the comic books.

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chasemaddigan Since: Oct, 2011
23rd Jun, 2021 10:04:03 AM

To clarify what happened, GateStarX is unilaterally moving comic book pages of various superheroes to the franchise namespace and turning the comic book namespace into a redirect.

I don't know if they got permission to do this, because I'm seeing nothing in their edit history that links to a thread or discussion agreeing to this. I know there's been a project to fix some of these pages, but I don't think this is the right way to go about it. Especially since most of the tropes for the comic namespace are focused solely on the comics, and not the franchise at large.

Edited by chasemaddigan
RallyBot2 Since: Nov, 2013
23rd Jun, 2021 10:14:36 AM

No, these moves should not be happening. I've posted in the thread and asked them to stop.

GrigorII Since: Aug, 2011
23rd Jun, 2021 10:37:54 AM

Even if a franchise page is warranted, it should be another page. The Punisher, the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, etc; are all long-runner comic books and must have their own pages. We may discuss if individual members of the Avengers should have a standalone comic book page or be moved to the character namespace (as it is done in that thread), but "The Avengers" in itself is a comic book that has almost 60 years of publication history. It is absurd to lack a page focused on the comic book series.

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Chabal2 Since: Jan, 2010
23rd Jun, 2021 12:20:47 PM

Yeah, that's why I brought it up here.

GeneralGigan Since: Sep, 2020
23rd Jun, 2021 01:21:03 PM

I’d say keep the Comic Book/ pages redirects, they used to already list non comic material anyway, so it seemed rather redundant to have both.

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chasemaddigan Since: Oct, 2011
23rd Jun, 2021 02:08:18 PM

I just think they should be reverse because no one bothered to change the wicks. This is a recurring problem, since it just means the old namespace is going to keep getting used instead of the correct one.

I don't mind a franchise page, but I do think the comics should be split off onto their own pages, especially since the tropes themselves focus exclusively on the comics.

GrigorII Since: Aug, 2011
24th Jun, 2021 01:02:54 PM

Changes have been undone... but the pages Came Back Wrong. Now they are simply a disambiguation page for shorter comic book works. No image, no overall description, no tropes... and again, nobody supported this nonsense either.

I mean, Gatestarx makes a radical change to those pages that nobody supported or approved, he's told that this was not fine... and instead of rolling things back, he makes yet another radical change!

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crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
24th Jun, 2021 01:15:43 PM

I've reverted the article for The Punisher comic franchise now. I will be back later for the rest.

[Edit: came back, did others, posted in the project thread]]

Edited by crazysamaritan Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
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