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montagohalcyon Rook from It's grim up north. Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Rook
#7751: Sep 26th 2012 at 7:50:51 PM

After playing Eliwood's story, you unlock Hector mode, in which Hector is the main character. There's some added dialogue and chapters and it's harder in various ways.

Chapter 23 (or 24 in Hector mode) has two different versions depending on the combined levels of your Lords at that point.

If less than 50, fight a Swordmaster named Lloyd in a valley, re-recruit Wallace from Lyn's prologue. And fog of war in either mode, apparently. In Eliwood mode Lloyd stays still. Hector mode, he moves.

If greater than 50, fight a Hero named Linus (Lloyd's brother) inside a town, recruit a pre-promote Warrior named Geitz, who is my avatar at the moment. Nice sunny weather.

Whichever brother isn't fought in 23 shows up later.

edited 26th Sep '12 7:54:55 PM by montagohalcyon

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hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#7752: Sep 26th 2012 at 7:51:44 PM

Not really

  • Four Fanged Offense for if your Lords levels added up to less than 50.
  • There are two main story routes, Eliwood's Tale and Hector's Tale
  • Lloyd is aggressive in Hector's Tale and will hunt you down
  • Lloyd comes equipped with a Silver Sword in Eliwood's Tale as opposed to a Light Brand

And I just remembered another reason why you would want to level up Eliwood. There's a chapter later on (though he's probably hit level 20 long before then) where you can only bring 4 characters besides Eliwood. And Eliwood is going solo for most of the chapter.

edited 26th Sep '12 7:55:00 PM by hnd03

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ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#7753: Sep 26th 2012 at 7:56:13 PM

Well I'm doomed then because he continues to fall behind in levels while the other two lords rock all kinds of house.

hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#7754: Sep 26th 2012 at 8:01:29 PM

Let him get the finishing blows and use your other units to weaken the enemies because I have a feeling they probably aren't matching Lyn and Hector.

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#7755: Sep 26th 2012 at 8:05:47 PM

Yes, that's how I leveled Florina. Of course that was easy because she has great movement. By the time Eliwood get to anyone they're already dead. It's also hard to, y'now, care because he has the personality of a wet pasteboard.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#7756: Sep 26th 2012 at 8:09:30 PM

What're talking about? His personality is all about finding peaceful methods for solving problems with violent people.

I kinda feel like Erika is Eliwood's basic concept done better. He's all "We shouldn't/mustn't fight!" while she's more "I wish we didn't have to fight, but I will if I must".

edited 26th Sep '12 8:10:16 PM by Pulse

I sure said that!
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#7757: Sep 26th 2012 at 8:11:25 PM

Personally, I'd take Wallace over Geitz any day.

Also, I'm liking Awkward Zombie's Eliwood more than Canon Eliwood.

edited 26th Sep '12 8:11:58 PM by Balmung

ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#7758: Sep 26th 2012 at 8:12:07 PM

-Checks Erika on the FE wiki-

-Sees Pimped-Out Dress DLC costume-

JESUS CHRIST WHO THE HELL IS THAT.

hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#7759: Sep 26th 2012 at 8:14:43 PM

One of the main Lords of Sacred Stones.

That's her Bride class costume.

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#7760: Sep 26th 2012 at 8:21:55 PM

I know who she is... Never played Sacred Stones myself but she does not look like the girl on the cover.

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#7761: Sep 26th 2012 at 8:23:40 PM

Her normal outfit looks like she does on the cover.

Brides~

...And she doesn't look that much different. She looks like...Eirika in a bride dress.

edited 26th Sep '12 8:24:16 PM by Otherarrow

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#7762: Sep 26th 2012 at 8:24:31 PM

Yes she does. She's just wearing something that she might actually wear in her regular life, instead of battle armour.

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#7763: Sep 26th 2012 at 8:24:36 PM

If I remember right, the DLC has her accidentally grabbing the promotion item and class-changing to Bride, and that's how it happened.

Also, it still beats what they did to poor Micaiah.

montagohalcyon Rook from It's grim up north. Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Rook
#7764: Sep 26th 2012 at 8:26:46 PM

DLC aside, in the original game I prefer Micaiah's original outfit to either of her promotions'.

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ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#7765: Sep 26th 2012 at 8:26:56 PM

Anime characters are identified 70% by outfit, the remaining 30% by hair. tongue

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#7767: Sep 26th 2012 at 8:29:38 PM

I blame Sariya for the Dark Mage outfit's skimpyness.

...I blame Micaiah for failing to pull it off like Sairya does, and the guest artist for sucking.

Also, since you see the portraits for FE characters most of the time, you will probably recognize their hair and facial features first out of anything. The Lords are slightly exempt, as you see their designs in their battle sprites. But generally, it's color palette, then portrait, then overall character design, at least for me.

edited 26th Sep '12 8:33:37 PM by Otherarrow

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ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#7768: Sep 27th 2012 at 7:33:41 AM

What the hell? Cool characters aren't supposed to die unless I screw up! AND I NEVER SCREW UP!

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#7769: Sep 27th 2012 at 7:42:35 AM

New DLC for next week! It's the first chapter of the Future of Despair storyline! Also, this week's Spotpass (and likely the last Spotpass release) is Sacred Tome Naga.

hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#7770: Sep 27th 2012 at 7:45:09 AM

Is it still stupid overpowered?

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
montagohalcyon Rook from It's grim up north. Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Rook
#7771: Sep 27th 2012 at 8:05:16 AM

[up][up][up]Leila?

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SapphireBlue from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#7773: Sep 27th 2012 at 8:18:54 AM

Why would you put all that effort into a facial portrait for nothing, is what I'm saying.

That said, why is Lyn continuously suffering from Cutscene Incompetence? It's kind of hilarious for her to get incapacitated by what I can only assume is the Standard Female Grab Area and then have her turn around and one-shot-critical the boss that did it.

edited 27th Sep '12 8:21:11 AM by ShirowShirow

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#7774: Sep 27th 2012 at 8:28:58 AM

How is having characters that aren't playable or bosses "nothing"? Every game has NPCs with unique portraits.

ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#7775: Sep 27th 2012 at 9:12:54 AM

I understand your logic, but chose to ignore it.


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