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recon5 Avvie-free for life! from Southeast Asia Since: Jan, 2001
Avvie-free for life!
#107276: Sep 29th 2013 at 2:48:50 AM

ZUN only started taking notice of the whole 'copyright' thing when he realized that there was a chance of someone using it to stop him from using his own characters.

onyhow Too much adorableness from Land of the headpats Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Too much adorableness
#107277: Sep 29th 2013 at 3:04:57 AM

^^ Isn't that one is the problem with trademark troll who register similar name?

Give me cute or give me...something?
Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#107278: Sep 29th 2013 at 3:31:51 AM

ZUN only started taking notice of the whole 'copyright' thing when he realized that there was a chance of someone using it to stop him from using his own characters.

? There was a trademark dispute, but that had nothing to do with characters. And ZUN had used his authority to deal with people that step out bounds well before

CaptainVulcan The Bad Guy from Here & There Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
The Bad Guy
#107279: Sep 29th 2013 at 4:27:12 AM

Exclusive Shinmyoumaru interview, post DDC:

Hopeless Vanity
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#107281: Sep 29th 2013 at 9:05:44 AM

Look with amazement on the transcredible exploits of the Sneaky Taoists!

The Tao of Futo!
Shiki's New Face!
Hold Harmony Sacred!

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FellDeedsAwake Since: Mar, 2010
#107282: Sep 29th 2013 at 9:16:02 AM

[up] Yes... those comics already were on the dude's tumblr weeks ago, found through this thread. smile The Futo burning Eiki's face off one is one of my favorite things ever grin.

totlmstr from California Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#107283: Sep 29th 2013 at 9:26:03 AM

The legality of doujinshi is exactly what Hylarn has said on the other page. However, I am thinking that Touhou itself would be considered Indie in the West due to its nature (One-Man Army, etc.,).

...yow. Doing the math in my head makes Touhou more profitable than any other franchise on Steam. It's also an effective entry to Steam on the Japanese side for those who don't know about it that much. Even if each game was priced, say, 10 to 15 a pop, that's really crazy with the snowball effect it would have.

...and Gabe Newell would never finish Episode 3 at this rate. Oh boy

edited 29th Sep '13 9:35:20 AM by totlmstr

Fandoms are insane.
TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#107284: Sep 29th 2013 at 10:12:54 AM

A movie about bunnies (Finnish 4koma)

All she wanted was a movie about bunnies!

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#107285: Sep 29th 2013 at 10:17:03 AM

Movie: "All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. ... But first they must catch you; digger, listener, runner, Prince with the swift warning."
Tewi: "He's taller in person."

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Rotpar Always 3:00am in the Filth from California (Unlucky Thirteen) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Always 3:00am in the Filth
#107286: Sep 29th 2013 at 10:21:35 AM

Copyright law can be weird between nations. Games-Workshop, the English creators of Warhammer40000 attempted to support a German fan movie. The problem was, to officially sign off on it and lend their support the 40K license would have basically gone public domain in Germany. "It's ok if these guys make a movie off your product? Ok, then everyone can do whatever they want with it."

edited 29th Sep '13 10:22:35 AM by Rotpar

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#107287: Sep 29th 2013 at 10:41:57 AM

Watership Down scarred me when I was a child.

Even today, the opening bars of Bright Eyes send me into horrifying flashbacks.

Song of the Sirens
Rotpar Always 3:00am in the Filth from California (Unlucky Thirteen) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Always 3:00am in the Filth
#107288: Sep 29th 2013 at 10:47:55 AM

Watership Down is on my reading list for this year, once I'm done with John Rector and Doctor Sleep. I don't think I've read that since high school.

edited 29th Sep '13 10:48:57 AM by Rotpar

"But don't give up hope. Everyone is cured sooner or later. In the end we shall shoot you." - O'Brien, 1984
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Formerly G.G.
#107289: Sep 29th 2013 at 10:50:38 AM

Copyright is very tricky thing especially between countries.

"Eratoeir is a Gangsta."
FellDeedsAwake Since: Mar, 2010
#107290: Sep 29th 2013 at 11:06:35 AM

I'm afraid I must admit that I've never seen Watership Down surprised. Pretty much all I know about it is that Popcultural Osmosis is telling me it's the deepest, darkest abyss of sadness and despair. sad

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#107291: Sep 29th 2013 at 11:06:53 AM

I saw Watership Down when I was a kid. I think it's kid-appropriate.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#107292: Sep 29th 2013 at 11:11:10 AM

The distinction between doujin and indie (in Japan) is pretty simple actually. Indie is essentially "small business", a new company trying to work their way into the market. They can't compete directly with the bigger established companies, so they usually try to make something different.

By contrast doujin isn't a business at all (theoretically). They charge money to recoup their costs, but the goal isn't to make money. In fact, they're not even competing with the bigger companies, since they complement them with fanwork that increases the popularity of established brands. The idea is supposed to be that even if they're losing money, they do it just because they love it.

Drawing a specific line may be more difficult, but those are the connotations. While he seems to have relaxed on it a bit, I seem to recall that ZUN was actually somewhat offended a while ago by being called "indie". Since he thought it meant he was doing it for the money, rather than out of love.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#107293: Sep 29th 2013 at 11:12:22 AM

I read Watership Down as a book first, and all I recall about the movie is that it cut out a lot of stuff for time. Yes, even as a kid I was reading the book first and complaining about adaptations.

FellDeedsAwake Since: Mar, 2010
#107294: Sep 29th 2013 at 11:13:48 AM

[up][up] Oh wow, that's genuinely interesting, I didn't know anything about that! surprised

[up] I think I had that for the first time with Star Wars.smile I was such a book nerd that I ignored the SW movies forever, but I loved the super-old novelizations as a kid/young teen. When I finally then saw the movies, I was also quite confused by a lot of missing stuff, but still loved the movies to bits anyway. The novels had all the Biggs scenes stuff on Tatooine, the mention of Luke's dog, Han having a hot chick on his lap before Greedo shows up, Blue Squadron instead of Gold Squadron, etc.

edited 29th Sep '13 11:30:18 AM by FellDeedsAwake

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#107295: Sep 29th 2013 at 11:28:32 AM

[up][up] I would not expect anything less from you.

Song of the Sirens
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#107296: Sep 29th 2013 at 12:05:04 PM

I also read the book first.

And then I read Plague Dogs.

Anyway, I'm sure the movie can be found on the youtubes in this day and age.

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TheMike Bo "Jangles" Wyatt Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Bo "Jangles" Wyatt
#107297: Sep 29th 2013 at 12:11:41 PM

I'm guessing you gents (and gentesses) have already seen ZUN's panel recap at Anime Weekend Atlanta? I'm usually slightly behind on these things.

edited 29th Sep '13 12:16:22 PM by TheMike

In the backyard, buried deep underneath the tree There's a monster, takin' root in the property...
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#107298: Sep 29th 2013 at 12:48:17 PM

Do we have any gentesses? I've always been a bit curious about that.

edited 29th Sep '13 12:55:01 PM by Clarste

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#107299: Sep 29th 2013 at 12:50:08 PM

A few different versions, even.

Edit: That was meant in response to [up][up], but it's funnier if it's to [up].

edited 29th Sep '13 12:51:00 PM by AnotherDuck

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TakerFoxx Dead Parrot from right above you. Look up Since: Jan, 2001
Dead Parrot
#107300: Sep 29th 2013 at 1:04:25 PM

So because I was going to start updating my stories again tomorrow, I figured I might as well get with the times and make a Tumblr. And since they require you to follow three other blogs, I added Xion's one about this thread.

The very first post I see is about how annoyed he was about how much IM was talked about and how he'd wait for the discussion to die down so he could contribute again.

sad I'M SORRY, XION! I DIDN'T DO IT ON PURPOSE! MOSTLY! IT WAS AT LEAST PARTIALLY UNINTENTIONAL, I SWEAR!

Imperfect Metamorphosis and Resonance Days Tumblr!

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