A second account to soulbonding

Personally I think you guys should have more accoutns of what soulbonding is other then DLC's account so this is what my account is and what is for the most part true about soulbonding.

Things you should know: It is different for everyone. My account will be very different then DLC's account of it because we are different people and we handle this stuff separately.

My soulbonds do not talk on the internet or stick up for me because they have better things to do. I am a big girl and can take care fo myself. However if you wish to talk to one of them, then feel free to ask. They will have no problem to take a little time out to talk to you except maybe Kefka. He has his moments of "I'm not going to now that you have asked me to do it because I am 3 years old and like pushing my bounderies" a lot of the time. Except he isn't quite that young anymore.

I have about 37 Original characters whom are bonds and 7 non original characters. The characters you might recognize are Kefka, Fran, Yuna, Rikku, Franziska von Karma, K 0 S-M 0 S, and Link as of late.

K 0 S-M 0 S and Link are the brand new ones, I seem to share Yuna, Rikku, and Link with DLC and I also share Link with another friend of mine.

With my OC bonds, it is normally that when I draw them I tend to bond to them and then they tell me their personality, their history, and things of that sort.

GETTING K 0 S-M 0 S: For game soulbonding connections I have to be playing the game in order for it to happen. The more I get to know a character, the more of a connection I feel to the character the sooner and faster I tend to bond with them.

I was in a Xenosaga playing rut, I tend to do that with a lot of my games, I'll play them for a month on end then not touch it again for a year or two depending (sometimes more sometimes less). Everytime a cutscene happened with K 0 S-M 0 S I felt a twinge, not one of pain, but one of what she may have been feeling during the cutscene. As an Andriod, she doesn't exactly have feelings the same way people do so it was weirder then my normal bonds (wait who am I calling normal? Kefka had lost his sanity, Fran is a Veira, and Link is a pimp. Well whatever CARRYON:) and when I can feel the emotions of another character as in depth as the game will so go with said emotions then I can tell at that point that they will become a bond and then it just becomes a matter of time with how often they appear in the game and how fast the game develops character.

GETTING LINK: Link has been one that has been troubling me for years, I have many of his games and have played a lot of them and ever since I started playing them I could feel link's pain when he got attacked (didn't feel worse if his last bit of health got down and he died) and most importantly I can feel his determination as well as love and awkward feelings as well (like when that tree wanted to marry him, oh boy, that was fucking weird, the same thing when he became engaged to Zuto.)

So while playing Majora's Mask (which is better then Ocarina of Time, Fuck you all) I felt these feelings abnormally stronger then normal. It was like intensified to the point were I actually played the game better because it fucking hurt to get attacked and then we became soulbonded.

Hmm... this could be interesting.

You're aware that many people here don't think very highly of soulbonding, right? Myself included, I guess.

Not the least of which is because it doesn't make a lick of sense.

Well just think of it as a spiritual thing. I understand not many people here think highly of it and that is ok. I do have a theory as to why but if you have any questions just ask. The reason why I started this thread is so people could see more then just DLC's account into things. Like, for example don't seem them as being physical manifestations that someone hallucinates all of the time. I don't know of any Christians literally see god and hang out with him all day long. (Terrible example but the only one I could thing of :I) But they are more then just imaginary friends as well.

I must admit a rather dim view of soulbonds as well.

I can grasp it as a mix of totemic guardian spirit belief with "What Would [character] Do?" philosophy on life. But when they start addressing their chosen characters as though they actually exist in a much more immediate sense, it does make me wonder.

Still, my overreaching philosophy of "It doesn't personally affect me, nor is it illegal or dangerous, so let them do whatever the hell they want" means that I may find it crazy, but don't feel the need to speak out on it regularly. Though I will admit looking for opportunities to voice my issues on certain aspects of it.

Still, I must applaud you for willing to come out and talk about it. Would be nice to get a second view of things.

I hope you don't have the stupidly massive number of Soulbonds that Celebrian says she has.

Lunyka - a question about shared soulbonds: Could you reliably use them to transfer information?

Like say you and a friend who are both bonded to Link. You ask Link to tell him to meet you on Friday afternoon. Would you two be able to do this?

Of course not, Link would totally get sidetracked along the way.

I'll be following this. Awaiting any updates.

I'ma ask you a few questions I asked DLC, just to get a better perspective.

1) Have you ever bonded to character that you didn't already know about?

2) If you can bond with so many people, can THEY bond with others too? Like, is it possible for say, Batman to bond with you, me, DLC and Fast Eddie?

3) You only have one soul, so surely making more than one bond is cheapening it?

4) DLC has a few limits on what she can bond with, do you?

4a) If yes, what are they?

4b) If no, why not?

5) If you bond with a character, do you bond with every single version of that character (say, Comic!Batman, Film!Batman, Cartoon!Batman) or just one?

5a) If you bond with all of them; what does that do for their histories? Do they remember everything they've ever done? And what about their personalites? Adam Wests Batman is VERY diferent from Christian Bales.

6) Do you try to reform villians when you bond with them?

7) Is it possible to bond to souless characters?

7a) If yes, what does that feel like compared to regular bonds?

8) What about fragmented souls? Like Voldemort, can you bond with them?

8a) What does THAT feel like?

9) Can you bond with people from THIS universe?

10) What causes bonds to form?

11) Does it happen automatically? Or do you have to FORM the bond mannually?

edited 10th Oct '10 1:11:16 PM by MrCleaverhook

Umm, can someone give me the rundown on what "soulbonding" actually IS?

In a non-cynical, non-snarky way that could be understood by a complete n00b?

edited 10th Oct '10 1:11:07 PM by Edmond_Dantes

Basically, a soulbonder is someone who feels they are so connected to what we see as fictional characters such as Batman or Dracula that they can communicate with them.

Well now to answer questions, sorry for the long post but a lot of people have asked questions.

I must admit a rather dim view of soulbonds as well.

I can grasp it as a mix of totemic guardian spirit belief with "What Would [character] Do?" philosophy on life. But when they start addressing their chosen characters as though they actually exist in a much more immediate sense, it does make me wonder.

Still, my overreaching philosophy of "It doesn't personally affect me, nor is it illegal or dangerous, so let them do whatever the hell they want" means that I may find it crazy, but don't feel the need to speak out on it regularly. Though I will admit looking for opportunities to voice my issues on certain aspects of it.

Still, I must applaud you for willing to come out and talk about it. Would be nice to get a second view of things.

I hope you don't have the stupidly massive number of Soulbonds that Celebrian says she has.

Thats for the applaud and it is fine to have your own opinion. I honestly don't see it as philosophy on life but more or less having different opinions about things as well as feeling close to a character and understanding them. It is like Reverse character development in a sense. Also I have probably a little over 40 bonds but keep in mind that over 30 of them are original characters and 7 of them are not. Only about 5 tend to be active at a time.

Lunyka - a question about shared soulbonds: Could you reliably use them to transfer information?

Like say you and a friend who are both bonded to Link. You ask Link to tell him to meet you on Friday afternoon. Would you two be able to do this?

It isn't as good as if I were to just tell my friend myself. I'm sure Link had other bonds that he should met with and deal with so using them to run errands is not the best of ways to handle things. And despite that Chubert is probably being snarky he actually has a good point. Both me and her would prefer to tell eachother through phone or internet rather then by soulbond.

I'ma ask you a few questions I asked DLC, just to get a better perspective.

1) Have you ever bonded to character that you didn't already know about?

2) If you can bond with so many people, can THEY bond with others too? Like, is it possible for say, Batman to bond with you, me, DLC and Fast Eddie?

3) You only have one soul, so surely making more than one bond is cheapening it?

4) DLC has a few limits on what she can bond with, do you?

4a) If yes, what are they?

4b) If no, why not?

5) If you bond with a character, do you bond with every single version of that character (say, Comic!Batman, Film!Batman, Cartoon!Batman) or just one?

5a) If you bond with all of them; what does that do for their histories? Do they remember everything they've ever done? And what about their personalites? Adam Wests Batman is VERY diferent from Christian Bales.

6) Do you try to reform villians when you bond with them?

7) Is it possible to bond to souless characters?

7a) If yes, what does that feel like compared to regular bonds?

8) What about fragmented souls? Like Voldemort, can you bond with them?

8a) What does THAT feel like?

9) Can you bond with people from THIS universe?

10) What causes bonds to form?

11) Does it happen automatically? Or do you have to FORM the bond mannually?

1) Only my Original Characters bond that this has happened to and has happened with every single one of them however after we've become bonded they'd tell me stuff about themselves and then I'd know more about them.

2) To me I see soulbonding more or less as a contract between both you and the character. A lot of the time you can't choose your own bonds but when you feel a connection to said character it is up to them too if they wish to fullfill it, otherwise it would be more like a slave and/or hostage situation.

3) Well if you ask this to the wrong person they might take it in an offencive manner. It is like having your own characters. Even the most well developed character is slightly based off of their creator (it might be a tiny little thing that isn't cannonly known.) so would making your own stories with your own characters cheepen your personality?

4ab) I do have some limits. I cannot bond to a character if I do not know them unless they are an OC, If bonding with a non-OC I must be playing/watching/reading whatever form of media they are from at the time, With my OCs I tend to draw them first before the bond happens (one girl was an exception.), and if I have any other limits or not I honestly don't know. I don't think I'll know ever fully what my limits are. If I can bond to character then so be it, if not then I might have a chance with another character from the same form of media, I never know until it has already happened.

5a) When I bond to a character they tend to have everything in their past memories intact and most bonders say that if they bond to a character such as batman, he'd look more like the comic version with maybe a phsyical feature here and there from one or maybe all of the actors. They normally will have the personality of whatever version of him that the bonder much preffers. Like lets use batman again, He may look a little like Bale but he might act more like West's batman. With a character like that, it has a little more to do with the Bonder's perseption of said character as long as they still act like themselves.

6) No. Being bonded to Kefka means I accepted him for being him, after all it isn't his fault what the magicite did to his sanity so even if I did reform, I doubt it would do much with Kefka or other villains like him because outside forces caused him to be him and he wasn't always evil. With a normal villain like Gannon who has probably always been evil, I'd still say no to reforming them. I personally don't see it right to change their personalities.

7a) KOS-MOS is probably pretty souless due to being an andriod, and well, it is different but not in the way you are asking. With me I tend to feel the character's emotions and what they are feeling when I see what happenes to them and with a character with no soul traditionally the emotions I feel are very different, they aren't the same way we'd feel emotions and because of that it is quite difficult to explain.

8a) My friend bonded to Tom Riddle as of late so I don't see why you can't bond to Voldemort. It would be like bonding to anoyone else I'd assume but I honestly don't know because no one I am bonded to has a fragmented soul but since dealing with one with no soul was pretty much simmilar, I would assume that this would be the same.

9) With humans? No. With spirites who have already passed, maybe, I have never actually done so.

10) Well it is something that happens over time that is different from bonder to bonder. With me, I can tell a bond is about to form when I start feeling how the character feels throughout seeing how they react to things in their universe and I will end up reacting the same way as them.

11) It is basically an automatic thing. I can't manually make them come faster, (I can halt them for a bit if I am too destracted at the moment to deal with something like that but I can't hold them off forever.) however to actually meet them is a manual prosses.

Umm, can someone give me the rundown on what "soulbonding" actually IS?

In a non-cynical, non-snarky way that could be understood by a complete n00b?

Mr. Cleaverhook as the jist of it but the bond to us and the character is so close that it is basically like the family you never had type of feeling. Some people also even only soulbond to one character and see it like a marriage to said character.

More questions! I love peppering people with questions!

1) You mentioned that the characters are usually composites of the different versions that exist. Do you think that there's a real Batman behind all of the different writers, adaptations and so on., or was he shaped by all of them? Would you find yourself bonding to a particular version, perhaps?

2) Sort of related to the above, is your Link the same entity as DLC's or are their multiple Links out there? It seems like you treat him as a single being that has bonded with many different people, but is it possible that there are others? (Especially in Link's case, as several of the games are about different guys?)

3) Do non-OC characters share details about themselves that regular viewers/players aren't privy to? Do they ever hide things about themselves? For instance, the later parts of the Xenosaga series reveal some very weird things about KOS-MOS's nature and fate. Would she tell you about that?

and finally,

4) Do you get the impression that your original characters have bonded with anyone else? Might you expect to see them crop up in other peoples' work?

1) You mentioned that the characters are usually composites of the different versions that exist. Do you think that there's a real Batman behind all of the different writers, adaptations and so on., or was he shaped by all of them? Would you find yourself bonding to a particular version, perhaps?

Someone in DLC's thread speculated that the beings soulbonders bond with aren't fictional characters, but some kind of spirits (similar to those that shamans commune with) that adopt the personality of fictional characters. I don't believe in that kind of stuff myself, but it's an interesting idea.

edited 11th Oct '10 7:32:20 PM by silver2195

More questions! I love peppering people with questions!

1) You mentioned that the characters are usually composites of the different versions that exist. Do you think that there's a real Batman behind all of the different writers, adaptations and so on., or was he shaped by all of them? Would you find yourself bonding to a particular version, perhaps?

2) Sort of related to the above, is your Link the same entity as DLC's or are their multiple Links out there? It seems like you treat him as a single being that has bonded with many different people, but is it possible that there are others? (Especially in Link's case, as several of the games are about different guys?)

3) Do non-OC characters share details about themselves that regular viewers/players aren't privy to? Do they ever hide things about themselves? For instance, the later parts of the Xenosaga series reveal some very weird things about KOS-MOS's nature and fate. Would she tell you about that?

and finally,

4) Do you get the impression that your original characters have bonded with anyone else? Might you expect to see them crop up in other peoples' work?

1) I'd say he has been shaped by all of them and you can bond to a particular version but it won't be exactly like that particular version because of maybe the slight personality and physical differences.

2) Same entity. I know the games take place over thousands of years but he has all the memories of what has happened tin those games and just think of the games that take place so far in the future reincarnations of the old link so they'd share one soul and one set of memories.

3) She would if she felt comfortable enough to. I mean I already knows what happens but if she'd rather not talk about it I won't press the issue. Cannon characters do share some secrets but if they choose not to then they don't. It is kinda like an actual person in that way.

4) Well If someone can bond to webcomics or comics in general they can become bonded to my characters once I actually start officially drawing them up and putting them up on the web. Would they know as much as me about them? Probably not seeing how I am basically their "god" per se since I did create them in a sense but others could become bonded I'm sure.

edited 11th Oct '10 7:57:05 PM by Lunyka

You spell it "per se."

Sorry. It just really offends the eyes.

Nah, it's fine. I am not the best of spellers, I appreciate you pointing it out to me however.

Sooner or later I'm gonna go through DLC's thread, and copy over all my questions that I asked her, and ask you. Sorry if I end up repeating questions, I'll try not to. Then can I PM them to you and get a response there, that alright?.

It's perfectly fine.

What is your opinion on where these er, characters come from? I mean, how is it that they can be depicted in stories accurately?

I believe that DLC believes them to be soulbonders as well. What is your take?

I believe these characters come from the soul of their creator. Like my OC bonds they are based off of me in some maybe very obscure way. They don't have to be soulbonders themselfs.

How about the versions of characters that appear in fanfiction? Does the Osaka in my stories come from me or Azuma?

Probably a bit of both. I mean the series does a pretty good job with her personality (Hi I have the manga books) so as long as you don't add any backstory and keep her spacey and odd it would probably more Azuma but since you are creating these scenarios it is a bit of you too but I have't heard anyone bond to a character in a fanfiction over it's original story anyway.

I see! I didn't imagine that people were bonding through fanfiction, I was just wondering if fanfiction could count as contact for someone who had already bonded to the character.

As you say, it probably depends on how close the author got it.

TOUHOU FUNTIEMS:

Well as the days have past I might be gaining a few new bonds. Cirno, Flandre, and Houjuu. They are not all from the same game but Every once in a while I'll get into a touhou playing mood and and play through some of the games and this is what happened. Everytime the convo before the battle would start off I could feel what the current boss was trying to do, like I could see it better on their point of view, then the convo was over and the battle would start off I'd feel super powerful. Now you know these games can be quite hard but it gets a little harder when you are trying to fight this boss and you feel twinges of pain everytime you attack them. When they hit me I felt almost happy in an odd sense and everytime they switched cards I'd feel a reboot in that powerful feeling that I got.

Them being bonded or not is still kinda up in the air seeing as I'll need to play their games again but the feelings were pretty strong the first time so I'm sure the second time around they will probably become new bonds. Not sure exactly when I'll get back to the games for now.

If it's Cirno, try playing Fairy Wars.