All Purpose Negima Fanfiction Thread

Both Naruto and Negima suffer from the exact same thing. The final arc stretched too long (MM Arc, War Arc) and the ending to said arc was ridiculously rushed in both cases, and the Final Boss was a disappointing and lame letdown.

But Akamatsu did it first, so Kishimoto is a hack for copying him.

(Also, no matter what happens, Negi will never feature in a fighting game with his endgame moveset...)

Unless it's an UQ Holder fighting game where he's the unlockable hidden final boss (because we all know he's the current host for the Lifemaker, bleh).

I wonder how would Karin work in a fighting game, since technically she only can lose by ringout...

Bah. She'd only be a pop up character on the menu screen giving "helpful" hints.

Well, she could work as a training dummy...

An UQ Holder!! fighting game's roster would only feature Touta and Kuromaru, and when you pick Kuromaru, you're knocked out after a few seconds then Touta comes and wins the fight for you.

edited 28th Aug '14 7:45:35 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

Probably just have her lose pose be "I am done with this shit" rather than "I am beat to shit." Same deal for the characters with uber-regen or what-have-you.

A fighting game with end-of-series Negi could just slap a limiter on his wrist for story reasons.

Yukihime's gameplay: When the match starts, she's nowhere to be seen. When the timer is about five seconds from reaching its limit, she shows up, makes a Super Move, automatically wins the fight.

edited 28th Aug '14 8:04:31 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Kirie can't hit for shit, but her hitbox is tiny and every time she loses the match restarts.

Actually, all I want is to have Titanoktonon as a super move. Having a Lightning Form super mode, wherein he just gets much faster (which also makes him harder to control, naturally), would also be nice.

edited 28th Aug '14 8:08:53 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

On the subject of fighting games.

Hey dawg, we heard you like your Pokeymans, so we put our Pokeymans in your Tekken.

No, seriously, this is actually made by the developers of Tekken.

I'm kinda partial to Pre-MM Negi since it thats more dependent on technical skills to be useful, which is always awesome to see pulled off. ME Negi would be pretty cool too.

I also heard of that elsewhere, but I really didn't pay it much heed. Man, between Hyrule Warriors and this, I think Nintendo took the whole "do something different" quite literally.

edited 28th Aug '14 8:13:40 PM by SkormSnow-Strider

Don't the Naruto fighting games have like three dozen Narutos and Sasukes? Two Negis wouldn't be much of a stretch.

The Dragon Ball Z games are a more obvious example, since some of them have each form of super sayian as a separate character. You can pull it off with characters that go through a time-skip or something, but that's about it.

Battle of Z does that, though the grand champion of complete motherf*cking rosters, Budokai Tenkaichi 3, has 4 Versions of Goku, IIRC (Early DB Goku, Late DB to Freeza Goku, Android to Buu Goku and GT Goku), 4 of Vegeta (Scouter, No Scouter, Buu Saga, Majin) and 4 of Gohan (Early DBZ, Cell Saga, Buu Saga and Ultimate Gohan). Most transformations, though, are sub-choices of each character (even the giant monkey forms). There might be other duplicate characters, but I can't remember them. Also, the fusions weren't characters in and of themselves, but transformations for the fusion material characters (basically, you had to choose, say, Goku, and then go into his list of transformations to choose from in order to select Gogeta or Vegetto... though you could also pick both Goku and Vegeta and fuse mid-fight, which I always found out to be better).

I want something closer to BT 3 than Battle of Z (though one less form of Goku, Vegeta and Gohan, throw in Gohan's Ultimate Form as a transformation for him, same with Majin Vegeta and Vegeta).

edited 28th Aug '14 10:17:49 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

I want something like Final Fantasy Tactics, where I can pit Negi against Naruto and finally beat up the prick.

Negi would be sooo broken in FFT. Raiten Taisou would up his Speed like crazy and he'd get like 300 turns before everyone else gets one. I wonder what Negi could do with Thundaja, though...

Also, I can just see Setsuna idolizing Orlandu. Actually, can I see Setsuna as she would be if trained by Orlandu? 'cuz that would be awesome.

edited 29th Aug '14 12:05:43 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

I believe Piccolo also had different variations to his character. Tenkaichi 3 sure had a ridiculously large fighting cast.

Also, have I finally found another being who likes the Tenkaichi series?

Did he? I only remember Piccolo Daimao and Piccolo Jr.

Also, yes, I did like the Budokai Tenkaichi series. My favorite also happens to be the most disliked, Budokai Tenkaichi 2. I liked the fact that you couldn't do a launcher combo just by pressing square a bunch of times and that button mashing would see you very dead very soon. Wish it could've had some of the mechanics present on 3, though...

edited 29th Aug '14 1:56:26 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

Piccolo Early and Piccolo End, I believe. I suppose it's to compensate for the lack of a move set customization.

And hey, I remember Tenkaichi 2 being my favorite as well. I especially liked the mechanic where if you missed an attack, something like a spirit bomb, and it made contact with the ground, it'd decimate the stage.

They can clearly change the moveset from transformation to transformation, wo it would've been better if Piccolo just had (With Nail Absorbed) and (With Kami Absorbed) forms. Though I'd rather it, at the most, be just Piccolo (Early) and Piccolo (Kami Absorbed), both as the same 'character' in different forms.

In a similar case, I'd rather Negi have Negi (Early) and then Negi (Endgame) as separate 'characters'. Throw in a transformation for Demon!Negi on the latter if you absolutely have to, but I think it would be good enough as a desperation super move. Raiten Taisou would be what he would normally use.

Throw in two forms for Asuna, too. One wielding her paper fan and mostly having no idea what she's doing, with Kanka as her desperation super move, and the other being Asuna wielding the Hama No Tsurugi and using Kanka for her super moves and Twilight Imperial Princess Super Special Awesome Powers Of Magic Cancelling as a desperation super move.

Naruto and Negima suffer from opposite problems. Negima at the end became rushed and focused more on plot then the characters and ended before a lot of plot points could get resolved properly. Naruto is longer and has put out more chapters: this has allowed it to develop things, but the downside was the longer it got the more off the rails it got as it tried to up the drama or tension or whatever.

I just feel Akatsuki (except for she who came out of left field: Kaguya) were done better character wise then Negima's villains, Akatsuki felt like individuals with their own motivations. However once again, they had the opposite problem: Naruto tried too hard to give them depth and make them sympathetic (Obito-why couldn't you really have just been some "nobody" waring a mask?) which has had mixed results (Just Madara and Obito really, the rest I think were okay-Itachi Wank aside), while Negima didn't really develop them enough (Fate's LM Flashback gave us something, but it was never expanded on) or give them the focus they deserved (Fate's girls). Being a "mysterious evil organization" really hurt CE as characters.

Over all I just feel Naruto just had better chemistry between its Heroes and Villains or at least tried to reach some manner of chemistry (now if it was done well is another story). Negima didn't have that for me. I mean Naruto and Sasuke had history between them that made you want to see how their rivalry would be resolved (and Sasuke to get the crazy slapped out of him). Tobi was the guy responsible for the Kyuubi Attack and the death of Naruto's parents. Pein/Nagato was a former student of Jiraiya, Itachi and Sasuke were brothers, and as dumb as the Obito reveal was for some people (or was it more how it was played out?) it gets Kakashi more invested in the battle via Evil Former Friend.

Negi and Fate didn't really have that, their interactions always felt bland to me (though not forced, just "meh" I couldn't care about it).

edited 29th Aug '14 11:19:12 AM by WorldTurtle

This.

Negima Villains: They try to be likable enough, but most of them lack the panel time to really gel, and the only one who does have enough of it (Fate) never stops being onedimensional, he just changes his single dimension from 'Carry the plans over' to 'Negi Negi Negi Negi'.

Naruto Villains: More room to breathe around and develop than Negima's, but Kishi's incompetence at real human drama that doesn't follow the Shounen Cookbook to a T means they feel too wooden and forced for the most part.

Bleach Villains: Interesting designs, and most of them almost reach Really Good status, but Kubo's own incompetence at exploiting his characters' potential means they largely end up as mere fodder for FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.

One Piece Villains: Amusing as hell, not exactly deep, but make up for that with sheer ham and presence.

UQ Holder Villains: They are just excuses that are shoved in and out abruptly as the plot demands (Fate's new minions being the most grotesque example of their misuse). Also, sleeping with Santa? Really? This is like Batman sneaking in to sleep in Two-Face's bed while investigating if he's behind Gotham's latest crime spree, but I guess it at least puts Touta in the same league of criminal investigation as Michael Douglas.

The Naruto villains suffered from being Unintentionally Unsympathetic to the point people cheered when Obito died, because he was finally out of the plot forever.

Now that's just harsh.