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G2BattleConvoy The Hope, The Hero from Installation 07 Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Hope, The Hero
#17526: Aug 22nd 2017 at 12:28:23 PM

We also don't really know how long the Mobile Armours were wrecking shit up before they managed to come up with nanolaminate armour.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#17527: Aug 22nd 2017 at 12:28:48 PM

[up][up] ... what?

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Kuruni (Long Runner)
#17528: Aug 22nd 2017 at 12:49:15 PM

Lets try to keep it simple with usual crossover video game logic like G Generation, assume that things are compatible between timeline. Because if we take beam's different particle composition and such, we'll just never figure out.

BTW, Raider's spherical breaker is designed to be able to damage PS armor, although the one time it hit Freedom in chest it doesn't leave a visible damage (it does, however, sent Freedom flying). But it mean PS armor's DR can be overcome with enough force, at least in theory (for non-animate, Red Frame Powered Red manage to damage Regenerate with its fist). So there's still a possibility that Barbatos' giant mace can damage PS armor (and Dainsleif Squad are likely still able to kill everything until they face Kira's hax).

edited 22nd Aug '17 12:52:00 PM by Kuruni

DragonSpartan Since: Jul, 2012
#17529: Aug 22nd 2017 at 1:03:20 PM

So weapons like Barbatos' mace, Kimaris' Gungnir, and Gusion's hammer have a high chance of breaking through PS armor.

edit:corrected to mace.

edited 22nd Aug '17 1:31:30 PM by DragonSpartan

G2BattleConvoy The Hope, The Hero from Installation 07 Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Hope, The Hero
#17530: Aug 22nd 2017 at 1:27:43 PM

Potentially, yes.

Also, Barbatos' weapon is actually a mace, Gungnir is a lance.

edited 22nd Aug '17 1:28:20 PM by G2BattleConvoy

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TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#17531: Aug 22nd 2017 at 1:34:41 PM

That's Mace-chan to you.

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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#17532: Aug 22nd 2017 at 2:35:13 PM

@Larkman

The point I was poorly trying to make is that the beam effect, cannon, and general look is similar. A beam cannon only works by being particle based and something like that could presumably mount it's own Mega-particle beam cannon.

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
#17533: Aug 22nd 2017 at 2:51:57 PM

It is worth remembering that most Gundams from the UC and elsewhere have some variant on the hyper bazooka, which will, at the very least, severely inconvenience a PD suit. In fact, breaching their nanolaminate-coated plating with missiles and then raking them with beam fire could be very effective.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#17534: Aug 22nd 2017 at 8:22:14 PM

Sunrise has started to roll out the English Dub of Gundam Build Fighters on the official Gundam Youtube channel.

edited 22nd Aug '17 8:22:36 PM by Lionheart0

Kuruni (Long Runner)
#17535: Aug 22nd 2017 at 9:50:29 PM

[up][up] As noted, PD MS does has bazooka too (we saw Graze Custom used it), that we rarely see it implies that its isn't effective enough against nanolaminate to outweighs its unwieldiness. It's likely as effective as Barbatos' cannon, you must shoot at close range (or aim at the weak points in armor).

Now in S1, Biscuit does mentioned that Hammerhead's anti-ship napalm would damage Isaribi's armor (noted that we later see Isaribi take Gusion's 400 mm grenade at close range and it doesn't seem to done much damage despite lot of shaking), but we never actually see it.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#17536: Aug 22nd 2017 at 10:40:08 PM

[up][up] Holy crap who did that dub... it is BAD... I mean WTF bad.

heliosKAISER The Struggler from Shadow Moses Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Struggler
#17537: Aug 22nd 2017 at 10:55:00 PM

That dub is awful. I tried to stomach it but I just couldn't at all.

Stick with subs. :(

You gotta start somewhere.
G2BattleConvoy The Hope, The Hero from Installation 07 Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Hope, The Hero
#17538: Aug 23rd 2017 at 1:09:39 AM

[up][up][up] Uh, for what it's worth, during the battle between the Outer Earth Orbit Regulatory Joint Fleet, the Revolutionary Fleet, Tekkadan and Arianrhod, you can see a few Grazes using bazookas in an attempt to damage the Isaribi.

And also, while Tekkadan are trying to break past the Outer Earth Orbit Regulatory Joint Fleet's blockade in episode 19?, a team of Grazes were trying to down the shuttle with bazookas before the Roueis showed up.

EDIT: Why did they decide to give Ramba Ral a Texan accent?

edited 23rd Aug '17 1:48:06 AM by G2BattleConvoy

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#17539: Aug 23rd 2017 at 2:08:55 AM

[up] The Japanese Ral has a slight Kansai Regional Accent, his VA is from Osaka.

Idiots who don't know what accent actually is use Southern or Texan accents to replace that. The actual cultural translation should be a New York or New Jersey accent.

edited 23rd Aug '17 2:10:12 AM by Memers

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#17540: Aug 23rd 2017 at 5:59:23 AM

Yeah I started watching the video after posting about it and wooboy. [lol]

MightyKombat Since: Jan, 2001
#17541: Aug 23rd 2017 at 6:00:55 AM

I don't remember any other dubbed Ramba Rals having bad texan accents. Are you sure he wasn't supposed to be Gaia or something?

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#17542: Aug 23rd 2017 at 6:25:52 AM

This is an Animax dub, ladies and gentlemen.

This is why when it was announced they were doing the dub, I immediately dismissed it as not worth watching.

lrrose Since: Jul, 2009
#17543: Aug 23rd 2017 at 6:29:38 AM

So I have GBF on DVD. It defaults to the dub. One episode, I forgot to switch it to subs and was treated to Fellini's VA doing an Italian accent that sounded even worse than the one from the original Scarface.

G2BattleConvoy The Hope, The Hero from Installation 07 Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Hope, The Hero
#17544: Aug 23rd 2017 at 6:30:56 AM

I'll admit, it's not as bad as the English dub for The Headmasters, but it's still pretty bad.

[up] My condolences.

edited 23rd Aug '17 6:31:32 AM by G2BattleConvoy

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#17545: Aug 23rd 2017 at 6:32:50 AM

Oh its Animax... Those guys give strange accents to people who dont have them all the time. Like they gave Klaus in Hayate No Gotoku a random baaad German accent.

G2BattleConvoy The Hope, The Hero from Installation 07 Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Hope, The Hero
MightyKombat Since: Jan, 2001
#17547: Aug 23rd 2017 at 7:02:59 AM

I've not heard about how bad Animax dubs are. How bad are they, what do they do wrong?

MachThreeSlug Since: Dec, 2011
#17548: Aug 23rd 2017 at 7:27:19 AM

Animax dubbed ZZ Gundam back in the day. The end result was pretty swish.

MightyKombat Since: Jan, 2001
#17549: Aug 23rd 2017 at 7:31:53 AM

Why does Judau sound like 21 years older than he should? I mean I know he's pretty swish but this is kinda dumb.

Kinda sad that the oldass VHS English dub of that Gundam film was the only one to remember that Bright was british.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#17550: Aug 23rd 2017 at 7:53:20 AM

It's a southeast Asian dub, guys. North America is not the intended audience.

Idiots who don't know what accent actually is use Southern or Texan accents to replace that. The actual cultural translation should be a New York or New Jersey accent.
Kansai-ben has cultural elements of Southern and New York accents, and either is a viable interpretation. Our own Kansai Regional Accent page says as much. The stereotype is a mix of "dumb redneck" (like a southern accent) and "rude asshole" (like a New York accent).

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

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