SCP Foundation

The Foundation would only keep their side of any portals under containment. They aren't going to abduct anyone that doesn't cross the portal in the first place.

Good, that places the Foundation in the spot for cameo side-feature stories.

edited 5th Feb '14 5:43:19 PM by Worlder

On the flipside, they might try to dispose of that SCP-2000 entry (think it's 2076 now) that's going to destroy the universe in about 300 years through entropic reversal by chucking it into someone else's universe. Or any number of the K-class inducing SCiPs. One attempt to destroy 682 involved chucking him through a portal into another universe, though he killed everything there and came back through after like a month.

In any universe less Grimdark than their own, (aka not Warhammer), the Foundation would be best suited to villainous roles.

edited 6th Feb '14 4:41:23 AM by Archereon

None of those examples involve abducting a member of a adjacent universe. And the beauty of no set canon is that 682 thing can be totally ignored for the sake of who ever is writing the story.

Personally I disagree with that.

My world has a global police force of superpowered individuals and an international military coalition. All that's left IMO is a place like DC's Belle Reve Prison, a facility designed to contain dangerous super powered criminals, or Odin's trophy room, a place to store all those dangerous artifacts and weapons.

So through a train of thought I remembered about the whole SCP thing. This organization would be perfect for maintain those prisons and vaults. But after a light reading of general stuff regarding the whole mythos, I revised things so that the Foundation would merely oversee the construction of these facilities and training of its staff so to prevent them from being too ingrained in my work.

@Are the Foundation "evil"

The Foundation is a human organization run by human interests. It has hard-working people dedicated to the cause and hard-working people dedicated to more personal rewards and even a few lazy slobs who haven't been thrown out. These people usually prioritize safety and efficiency above hurt feelings. Note that "usually"; plenty of Foundation stories have personnel making exceptions. And while efficiency and safety are paramount, the default is to still treat people, anomalous or not, like people. And it makes sense that they do that, since happy people are less likely to push back (Or commit suicide). That's why containment procedures usually have some concessions for keeping subjects entertained.

Or to put it another way: The Foundation's rules call for efficiency, safety, and objective analysis. The Foundation personnel differ in how they interpret those thee things, how much they follow them, how they rank them (Although the rules usually place safety above everything else), and how well they can follow them.

edited 7th Feb '14 11:08:22 AM by Scardoll

Yes but i still find keeping sentient and good people locked up, like Cain for example, just because they are different is very evil and makes any of your other actions moot.

edited 8th Feb '14 12:23:49 AM by KingNick1995

Cain's also a walking pestilence to all plant life.

Cain could just spend his life in the big city.

@Scardoll: To what extent the Foundation as a whole adheres to those different interpretations of its ideology depends on the writer as well. More and more these days tend to portray the Foundation as "justified in everything they do no matter what" to a rather creepy extent. This is at least in part due to the backlash against the Stupid Evil yet darkly comedic "lolfoundation" interpretation of the organization that dominated in the site's early days.

edited 9th Feb '14 3:35:07 PM by Archereon

Cain is allowed free-reign to wander around the entire facility he's kept at. That's more freedom than any other humanoid SCP. He's essentially kept under house arrest. Only rules applicable to him are to not be near any plant-based SC Ps and that violence is never to be used against him. If he were just "spend his life in the big city", he would come in contact with plant life in the city and/or have some form of violence be used against him. Neither option is something you want out in the open.

yeah but what about the others like the drawing girl? Why lock her up when you could just give her an art gallery to stay in.

edited 9th Feb '14 6:22:30 PM by KingNick1995

You're suggesting a sapiant drawing (The only one of her kind in existence) be released in a heavy traffic area where hundreds of people can see her. The living picture. Such a thing that couldn't possibly exist.

Yeah but she will be free, and happy to have a lot of things to interact with.

edited 9th Feb '14 9:10:42 PM by KingNick1995

And also an enormous anomaly that would draw massive amounts of attention if she were to be found since she doesn't make sense. Maybe create her an art gallery at the foundation, but releasing her into the public would cause trouble for both the public and herself, given what another group (some government or other, for example) might do if she's found. She'd have to be told to stay completely still during all active hours of the museum, imprisoning her quite possibly even more than she was before if she didn't want to cause an event.

She's given many things to distract her since it was added that she's now aware of her existence as a non-human. I feel that putting her a place with a lot of people would be harmful to her, especially if she were to try to communicate, since anything she says turns to speech balloons. I feel she's perfectly content to put together that car.

SCP-2085 - The Black Rabbit Company

The Foundation is more interesting when it's misguided or mistaken in its methods than when it's trying to be cruel.

edited 10th Feb '14 1:19:35 PM by Scardoll

That's my point exactly the Foundation acts all high and mighty like they are the saviors of mankind, when in reality they are just a bunch of sciency villains who imprison innocent people.

They do more to maintain the status quo of the world and ensure shit like 682 or the Red Sea Object aren't known to the general public. The Foundation is not in the business of just killing for no reason.

Yeah but would it hurt them to be more aligned toward good?

To me, they are Neutral Good. They maintain the world As-Is. They try to understand what these things are when they can, and try to make life as comfortable as possible for those sentient SC Ps who are harmless, but a little bizarre. And for non-sentient SC Ps, even the Safe SC Ps are a danger, so it's best to keep those locked away. Though, I do question why this hasn't been moved to another list.

I don't think their treatment of the D-class Personnel allows them to be classified as Good, even if they all are horrible criminals.

There are a variety of interpretations for D-class; a lot of people think the whole "end of the month" thing makes zero sense, and on the other hand they also think getting that many people from just "death row prisoners" is suspicious.

The Foundation is Lawful Neutral as an organization with people of all strokes within it.

edited 11th Feb '14 7:13:08 AM by Scardoll

They also clamp down on any and all scientific advancements that they themselves don't understand (and that they make no effort to try to understand). They've appointed themselves the arbiters for what is normal and rational, and force the world to conform to that.

Oh, and they're a bunch of fascists who will persecute any religion they think is slightly odd.

They're in conflict with a couple terrorist groups that are actively trying to hunt down SC Ps, they're in conflict with the Church of the Broken God which is...not a good organization, and even the group that tries to use SC Ps for good, the Manna Charitable Organization doesn't tend to think things through.

There's also the Fifth Church which is also rather bad.

edited 11th Feb '14 2:49:12 PM by Zendervai