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Swish Long Live the King Since: Jan, 2001
Long Live the King
#126: Oct 11th 2010 at 6:36:01 PM

^ That is interesting... though, Boyd knows his own house, and I would think he knows the difference between a bump from the back room, and a bump from something else...

My moment of Fridge Logic in the episode was during the same sequence though. Dexter never wore gloves in the house like he usually does. He also didn't wear gloves taking off the lid to the barrel in episode 2. And little things like that is what is going to end him, if he's not lucky.

LedWalrus Since: Jun, 2009
#127: Oct 12th 2010 at 12:45:34 AM

My Fridge Logic, or rather Plot Hole moment is What the HELL happened to Dexter's syringe?

Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#128: Oct 12th 2010 at 7:29:52 AM

Well, it seems to me that a syringe on the side of the road can't be that rare around Miami.

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
LedWalrus Since: Jun, 2009
#129: Oct 12th 2010 at 8:40:39 AM

But when you have a syringe next to an unconscious person with a track mark on his carotid artery, it can't be just a mere heroin addict.

It seems like Boyd is the Freebo of season 5. For a quick refresher: Freebo was a "standard" Dexter mark in season 3. The hunt for him didn't go as planned and set off much of the plot for that season.

Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#130: Oct 12th 2010 at 9:11:09 AM

Boyd is a piece of work, that's for sure. Freebo was just a murderous scumbag, but Boyd is operating on a level somewhat below Dexter, Ice Truck, and Trinity. His disposal methods leave something to be desired, but there's no question that he is a force in and of himself.

The fact that we know almost nothing about his victims, the weird perspective shift in the hospital to where we were following Boyd instead of Dexter, and his last words all lead me to believe that he knew something about the girl in the attic that will be the season's big complication. She's played by Julia Stiles, who is apparently the season guest star... which means she's A) a love interest, B) a killer herself, or C) all of the above. wild mass guess Maybe Boyd was like Dexter in some regard... he preyed on evil hot girls?

As for Deb's case, I'm not sure I like where they're going with the female Venezuelan uniform (IMDB lists her character's name as "Cira"). Either she's involved with the murders and is covering for them (which would explain why she's so pushy, and why the potential informant died right after she went to talk to him), or she's got some vendetta against them and is just not coming clean, despite having the resources of the police department at her back. Either way, it doesn't seem like a fun plotline. I hope I'm wrong, and Cira really is just a culturally aware uniform who can help Deb once they start getting along. The show needs some more sympathetic non-dirty cops. Quinn, aka "NOT James MOTHERFUCKING Doakes" does nothing for me.

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
evilneko Since: Nov, 2009
LedWalrus Since: Jun, 2009
#132: Oct 12th 2010 at 2:41:09 PM

Oh and a Wall Banger: Quinn's line to Deb about the elapsed time since they had sex. WHO TALKS LIKE THIS?

I really don't like what they're doing with Quinn. It just seems so unnatural that he's boning the sister of the guy he's trying to bring down.

^Apparently Michael C. Hall's contract is for six seasons. So at the earliest, we have another season to set up a series finale.

edited 12th Oct '10 2:42:06 PM by LedWalrus

Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#133: Oct 12th 2010 at 2:46:27 PM

Quinn really sucks. I want the Ghost of James Motherfucking Doakes to come down from heaven and punch him in the nads.

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
evilneko Since: Nov, 2009
#134: Oct 12th 2010 at 10:36:57 PM

^Apparently Michael C. Hall's contract is for six seasons. So at the earliest, we have another season to set up a series finale.

That settles it, I think. We're seeing the beginning of the end for Dexter. Actually, it started in season 4. Notice how Kyle Butler seems to be coming back to bite Dexter in the ass? And now, certain things in the current season... yeah, Dexter's on his way down. Hang on tight, I'm betting this is gonna be one wild ride.

Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#135: Oct 13th 2010 at 7:07:53 AM

Last season, Dexter killed his first real innocent, the creepy photographer with the murderous assistant (Prado's brother doesn't count, since it was self defense). They really didn't deal with it as a significant event in his life, what with everything else that was going on, but the breach of Harry's Code was significant. Dexter's been getting sloppier and sloppier.

Now we have a repeat of the Season 2 situation where an innocent finds out Dexter's secret and he has to imprison 'em. This time he doesn't have Lila around to conveniently murder the witness... His code is coming apart at the seams. I would not be surprised if it all ended at the end of next season. I just hope it's epic.

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#136: Oct 13th 2010 at 11:43:45 AM

I don't trust anybody on this show anymore. The new cop, the nanny, even that motivational speaker guy 'cause they showed his face for a second.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#137: Oct 13th 2010 at 2:11:15 PM

wild mass guess The new uniform is high priestess of Santa Muerte, the nanny is ex-Irish Republican Army, and the motivational speaker teaches people to murder and commit armed robbery once you get to the advanced levels. /wild mass guess

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#138: Oct 13th 2010 at 5:32:43 PM

^The cop and the speaker kidnap Harrison, so Dexter teams up with the nanny to kick their assses.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#139: Oct 14th 2010 at 7:09:28 AM

NOT HARRISON! Go kick their asses, Dexter and Irish Republican Nanny!

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
evilneko Since: Nov, 2009
#140: Oct 17th 2010 at 9:33:37 PM

@Led Walrus: Just watched ep 4, and I think your Boyd:Freebo analogy is pretty close to the mark.

Also, I noticed Dexter has no listing on the Blackmail trope. There's plenty of it in the show. And now two instances of Dexter being blackmailed by witnesses to his crimes, or at least that's the impression I got from the preview for ep 5...

Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#141: Oct 18th 2010 at 7:35:15 AM

Hm, good, they resolved the Doakes Conundrum in one episode.

Man, Julia Stiles looks BAD in this episode. She cleans up pretty well, though.

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
Nabi Since: Jan, 2001
#142: Oct 18th 2010 at 2:20:37 PM

Eh, I'm hesitant to call it over that soon... It's early in the season, and Quinn might be dumb enough to ignore LaGuerta and keep investigating on his own.

edited 18th Oct '10 2:20:51 PM by Nabi

nothri Since: Jan, 2001
#143: Oct 18th 2010 at 5:06:04 PM

10 bucks says the evil cult they are investigating is related in some way to the 'other men' that kidnapped 'Rachel'. In fact, 10 bucks says that this season's incarnation of the Big Bad isn't a person ala Ice Truck Killer or Trinity, but some kind of serial killing consortium.

I'm actually starting to like this season...I've already enjoyed more episode in a row than I have since season 2, I'm intrigued by the plot developments, and I'm actually back to be interested in the characters (season 3 bored me to tears, especially since Miguel was basically just a nonsexual version of Lila, connecting with Dex on the same emotional levels and leading to the same outcome, and season four was severly up and down- the high notes for the season were very high indeed, but the low notes were pure dreg (Dexter running through his neighborhood wearing a scary mask to 'scare' a vandal...what?). But no, this season has the characters coping with stuff I find engaging, being believable, and actually building up a decent mystery-drama (which, let's face it, has been gone from the series since we learned who the ice truck killer was...the Skinner notwithstanding). I'm eager to see where this whole cult/white slavery/ring of serial killers story line goes.

......and hoping desperately that the dark passenger doesn't turn out to be a literal demon the cult literally worships.

Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#144: Oct 19th 2010 at 6:41:12 AM

Nabi: Actually, the Doakes Conundrum I'm talking about is the fact that Dexter had an innocent witness to his naughtiness. Dexter can't kill those people because of the code (he even slipped up this episode and called that "rule #1"; he probably is still smarting from killing a couple of innocents in the past two seasons). When Doakes found out, he had a serious problem: release Doakes and get pinned for the murders, or kill Doakes and violate the code. So he just kept Doakes locked up until Lila conveniently murdered him. In this case, Dexter resolved a similar issue with a leap of faith.

I'm sure that Quinn will continue to investigate despite what LaGuerta says. He is an idiot. I have to wonder, though - now that both Quinn and Doakes have risked their jobs to go after Dexter, if Maria doesn't start to have doubts herself.

nothri: I'd hesitate to say that Miguel was just a nonsexual version of Lila. Miguel discovered Dexter's secret early in season 3; Lila only figured it out very late in season 2. Miguel and Dexter played some serious cat-and-much-larger-cat games that had some cool twists. In the end, Miguel was an actual rival, while Lila was just hopelessly fucked up in the head and evil.

Season 3, overall, was much better plotted than Season 2... it didn't have any of the bizarre contrivances that they need after they painted themselves into the corner with the Bay Harbor Butcher case. Plus, I really loved the resolution of Camilla's storyline. Broke my damn heart.

Finally, not that I really want them to go there, but they've been hinting that Dexter's luck is actually supernaturally infernal for awhile now. I wouldn't abandon the show if they decided to start running with that ball.

edited 19th Oct '10 6:50:54 AM by Dracomicron

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
LedWalrus Since: Jun, 2009
#145: Oct 19th 2010 at 10:42:59 AM

Tell me that we're not having another buddy murders plot.

Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#146: Oct 19th 2010 at 1:03:07 PM

It doesn't look like that, Led. It looks like Lumen wants Dexter to kill her former captors, but he's not feeling it, for whatever reason.

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
Swish Long Live the King Since: Jan, 2001
Long Live the King
#147: Oct 19th 2010 at 2:29:06 PM

Well, since The Code prescribes that Dexter only kill murderers, one could assume that Dexter has issues with killing people who aren't murderers.

edited 19th Oct '10 2:29:21 PM by Swish

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#148: Oct 24th 2010 at 9:40:06 PM

An eye tattoo? Really? Who wrote this, Lemony Snicket?

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
evilneko Since: Nov, 2009
#149: Oct 24th 2010 at 10:37:55 PM

So, how's Dexter as a series gonna end?

Caught?

Killed?

Blake's 7 ending? (don't we have a trope for that?)

Also: Sweet, Peter Weller!

edited 24th Oct '10 10:38:27 PM by evilneko

Dracomicron Since: Jan, 2001
#150: Oct 25th 2010 at 9:26:18 AM

Mullon: It wasn't a tattoo.

Anyway, I think I heard a thousand fangirls squee when Shane, aka "Michael Angelo" had a big ol' flirt-on for Deb.

Between that, the screentime that Officer Cira is getting with Deb, her heavy emphasis on no emotional involvement with Quinn, and Jennifer Carpenter's legion of lesbian fans, makes me wonder if they're not going to actually push that angle this time. We could only be so lucky [lol]

Peter Weller's line, "What the fuck kind of name is 'Dexter'?" rang some bells at the back of my head, but I can't think of it. Anyone know if that was a Shout-Out to something?

Anyway, if Mr. Weller's character got busted by La Guerta, then somehow I'm not too concerned that he will pose any threat to Dexter.

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax

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