Hayate the Combat Butler

Yeah, I think I'll just drop this here. I didn't think it was possible to try so hard to be good without getting there when there's already good source material to work with and this is also the original author's intent that we're seeing.

edited 10th Oct '12 5:26:59 PM by UltimatelySubjective

I think Hata, like his friend Akamatsu, just doesn't have any idea of how to adapt his works to animation.

He did when it was the 2nd season.

He handled that one? I thought it had been helmed by Nabeshin.

...Well, I meant letting that season actually be a proper adaptation.

Ah.

Yeah.

Maybe his case is Akamatsu's opposite then, in that the more control he has the worse things turn out?

Not missing anything if I skip this one then?

Are Hata and Akamatsu friends? I know Wakaki mentions Hata a lot and TWGOK stuff has showed up in Hayate, but I only remember two Negima jokes in Hayate which really isn't that many.

I've read they hang around a lot. And apparently Hata was Kumeta Koji's assistant, and since Kumeta has a friendly rivalship with Akamatsu and they'll work together in a secret project soon, I wouldn't be shocked if the three of them are actually close. Negima's bonus Volume 0 also has Misa, Tsukuyomi and Kaede cosplaying as Hinagiku, Nagi and Hayate.

Not to mention Akamatsu is also a drinking buddy with Miura "Berserker" Kentaro.

edited 10th Oct '12 7:13:17 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Not missing anything I grantee you. I basically skipped a lot of the scenes because I was bored.

Going to stick with it to see how bad it gets and because the C Ms are funny.

Oh yeah. I forgot that cosplay thing. And their movies did air at the same time, didn't they?

I personally just thinking a lot of mangaka are buddy-buddy with each other, each group forming their own gang based on which magazine their manga are published in.

Yes, they did, although Manglobe did Hayate's and SHAFT made Negima's.

Their movies did more than air at the same time, they double-billed. As in, buying a ticket for one equates to a ticket for both, you walk into the theatre and you saw the Negima movie, an intermission with a short Zetsubou-sensei anime video, and then the Hayate movie.

And yeah, it seems that Hata having more control is the opposite of what happens when Ken has more control. Doing a bit of math in my head, I was wrong when I said 3 manga volumes of storyboards wouldn't fill a whole season - 3 volumes is 26 chapters, so it's a chapter's worth of storyboard pages per episode.

The problem with this anime is that every scene in it could have been done in a funny (or, in the rare cases this time that I actually smirked, funnier) way without changing too much, and they seem to be refusing.

edited 10th Oct '12 9:39:31 PM by burnpsy

Well, I'm just going to hope that this anime does just well enough to not sink future Hayate anime ventures but not well enough that the season itself gets some sort of continuation. TWGOK and Negima already got sunk like that.

I'm not really seeing what you guys are talking about. The anime seems to be about at the standard set by the manga, quality-wise.

Which is to say, hit-or-miss, but worth following for the hits.

I disagree. The pacing was so slow this episode that it could have easily been half of one and flowed better.

I can't help but be distracted by how weird the characters all look. They all look like bobble-heads...

I'm not sure if it's intentional or not. I want to call Off-Model, but...*fetal position from confusion*

Dunno. As someone who hasn't actually got around to reading the manga yet, it seems it's only different from the original anime in ways that are bad.

Okay, they seem to have made it less gag-focused, and are almost completely neglecting characters from the original series (and there's the way the characters look as mentioned ), but that doesn't preclude it standing on it's own merits... Which it doesn't seem to be doing.

Even if they had just made it funny...

edited 10th Oct '12 10:04:29 PM by UltimatelySubjective

/shrug

Maybe it's because I haven't watched either of the previous seasons.

In retrospect, my last post sounded irrelevant, so let me explain.

Hayate is supposed to be funny. I'll admit that they've been trying, but not once have they made me laugh. When I looked at why, I saw that the jokes are OK, but the timing is too spaced out due to the slow pacing. Had this been faster-paced or had more jokes, it would probably have made me laugh once by now, but it hasn't done either of those things.

So you get a few gags... with a lot of slow stuff in between each new joke.

edited 10th Oct '12 10:06:44 PM by burnpsy

The soundtrack is also inferior, so it's probably not going to be very effective at backing up/punctuating those jokes either.

I think the problem is that the director really doesn't know how to balance comedy with drama. It honestly feels like the director really wants to work on a dramatic series with a lot of symbolism and abstract/random visuals, but is stuck doing a gag series.

edited 10th Oct '12 10:19:50 PM by NoLimit

Once again, I'll be the odd man out and say I liked the episode. The commentary was hilarious.

It seems like they're continuing the manga storyline after summer is over, except that somehow Nagi has her house back. I can only imagine that the manga will branch off differently.

And next episode has Hinagiku! At least, that's what the preview leads me to believe.

Episode 2: Mostly a bore.

fanservice chapter? fanservice chapter. Not that I'm complaining

Hayate in casual clothes is actually so weird. Also love the fact that both of them have no idea what to do when they are not working