Reminds me of Bowling for Columbine when the bank account Micheal Moore opens gets him a free gun. Loved that scene.
If you don't like a single Frank Ocean song, you have no soul."You don't buy an AK because you need one you fools, you get one because you want one and assault rifles are fun to shoot."
Much like the truck... which you just know is some F-250 class four wheel drive ecosystem-eating monster no one really needs...
edited 13th Nov '10 11:33:25 AM by TheyCallMeTomu
Trucks of the F-250 and above class are meant for fleets anyway and can be damn expensive. Not that many people can get them.
Hmm... if AK-47s are so great why aren't NATO using them?
The term "Great Man" is disturbingly interchangeable with "mass murderer" in history books.^
We have a bit higher concerns regarding overpenetration since we actually care about collateral damage, also NATO is too prideful to go off and use a Warsaw Pact era weapon as standard issue.
We also value accuracy. The ability for the AK to ingest filth is due to generous tolerances, which hinders accuracy, basically.
I'm betting that the gun voucher is good for a semi-automatic version. Full-automatic ones are heavily restricted. You can clean up an AK to shoot straighter, though, so maybe you can hit stuff out at 300 meters. When they switched to the 5.45mm round (AK-74), it helped accuracy, or so I heard.
...watch that 400 bucks only get you an SKS...
Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.What's wrong with the FN FAL? Right arm of the free world? Seems like a flexible, reasonably accurate, and durable weapon.
edited 13th Nov '10 1:45:45 PM by Shichibukai
Requiem ~ September 2010 - October 2011 [Banned 4 Life]Agreed, very well-made weapon. Just don't fire it on full-auto.
I'd rather have a Mini-14, myself.
EDIT: I have a rant about the FN-FAL, but it's tied into the post-war time when everyone was scratching their heads about intermediate cartridges and assault rifles.
edited 13th Nov '10 1:30:44 PM by pvtnum11
Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.The whole principle of getting something free with something else is funny to me. Just lowering the price of the truck by the value of the gun would be logistically simpler and more flexible for everyone (assuming the gun is readily available), but psychology just doesn't work that way.
Remember that Dilbert arc where they sell MP 3 players by giving out a free iPod with each one?
It also doesn't necessarily simply mean a loss to the truck seller of $400. There could be any number of reasons why that particular gun, or products from that particular gun shop, costs less than market price to obtain in this case, which means a slight edge in favour of the seller (but not at a loss to the customer).
edited 13th Nov '10 6:09:38 PM by Jinren
It's also possible somebody just had a warehouse full of the things and decided to throw them in for free to remove any fees.
Fight smart, not fair.A warehouse full of surplus weapons. Fancy that.
Requiem ~ September 2010 - October 2011 [Banned 4 Life]Wouldn't this be dangerous to do though? And are they allowed to do this?
You got some dirt on you. Here's some more!They still need to be legally able to buy the gun from the store - all the dealership is doing is giving them a voucher good for the price of one.
Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.You've gotta fill out all the paper work for the weapons licenses yourself. And I meant the "warehouse full of merch" as a general case. Leaving it in a warehouse not only costs warehouse rental fees, it will get hit with ownership taxes come newyear.
Fight smart, not fair.All the more reason to work out a deal to get rid of them.
Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.I personally love the FN FAL and wish California would let me have one, especially since I qualified on it including taking it completely to pieces and putting it back together. Accurate, powerful, reliable, reasonably easy to work on.
What's wrong with it? It's fucking heavy and so are its loaded magazines. It is ludicrously overpowered for short-range combat, especially urban. Overpenetration is especially a problem there.
Of course, the British Army had to replace it with a piece of suck compared to which the AR-15 family is a model of success.
A brighter future for a darker age.^
I know right, small handguns are the source of over 90 percent of gun crime in California, but I can't get a semi automatic carbine that doesn't have some gimped piece of shit "Cali legal" loading mechanism.
Well at least we don't have Sawed Off Assault Rifles, am I right?
^ Why would you want to saw off an assault rifle? That runs a very high risk of fucking up the gun!
Concealment, I suppose.
But there are next to no assault rifles with a significant amount of barrel to cut down.
The M-14 has about 6 inches of barrel beyond the gas tube/piston system. The AK-47 about 3 inches. Cutting an assault/battle rifle like either down to concealable size (as opposed to being a rifle) is likely to sever the gas system rendering the weapon incapable of anything but bolt-action operation.
Now there are a couple of weapons like the H&K G3 which operates not by gas tubes and/or pistons but by blowback meaning the barrel is long just because you want accuracy. You could cut a G3 down from battle rifle size to a shorter barrel length than an MP5 submachinegun and still retain select-fire/automatic capabilities. (Good luck hitting anything with it though.)
Then again, why would want to?
The AK-47 is the most reliable weapon? But according to d20 Modern, the HK-G3 deals more damage!