Follow TV Tropes

Following

Series/Sherlock

Go To

kalel94 Rascal King from Dragonstone Since: Feb, 2011
Rascal King
#601: Aug 28th 2012 at 7:01:06 PM

This is such obvious trolling by Mofftiss. "Rat" is obviously a joke, 'cause they knew fans would immediately connect it to the giant rat of Sumatra. They knew "wedding" would get the Johnlock shippers all riled up. And they knew people would panic, and think the series was ending when they saw "bow".

The last hurrah? Nah, I'd do it again.
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#602: Aug 28th 2012 at 7:04:06 PM

[up]...Except "His Last Bow" isn't the last story. If he really wanted to scare us he'd say "Shoscombe".

Wedding could be any number of stories. "The Speckled Band" leaps to mind.

edited 28th Aug '12 7:05:30 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Yuanchosaan antic disposition from Australia Since: Jan, 2010
antic disposition
#603: Aug 28th 2012 at 7:29:40 PM

"His Last Bow" is the last story chronologically (it takes place at the start of WWI). It's a weird story compared to the rest of the Canon (third person, not a mystery, takes place a long time after the others), but those issues can be averted in the adaptation.

"Doctor Who means never having to say you're kidding." - Bocaj
Pokénatic from Neo-Venezia Since: Jul, 2010
#604: Sep 1st 2012 at 7:55:24 AM

I haven't been to this thread before, but I'm quite a fan of the series and I have something crazy to say: Sherlock is getting a manga series starting on October 4!

Follow me on tumblr!
joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#605: Sep 1st 2012 at 11:39:43 PM

...

I actually think this show would work as a manga for some reason.

hashtagsarestupid
DomaDoma Three-Puppet Saluter Since: Jan, 2001
Three-Puppet Saluter
#606: Oct 1st 2012 at 9:16:21 AM

I think "rat" actually refers to the Boscombe Valley Mystery, where the victim's apparent last words involve a rat. (I further think they're doing that because Ronald Adair isn't very interesting.) And cheers to the person who suggested Solitary Cyclist for "wedding"; that's a lot more likely to port to the 21st century than Noble Bachelor, which is what I was thinking.

I'm positive "bow" is Last Bow, but the Three Evil Magicians are taking Holmes distinctly away from Doyle's nationalism, so I'm really curious what they'll do there. And yes, it would mean the show's ending, but on the plus side, you couldn't ask for a better finale than Last Bow. Also, no sadistic cliffhangers.

Hail Martin Septim!
joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#607: Oct 6th 2012 at 7:50:57 AM

So according to the pilot john watson sister adulterous drunken lesbian? That's a rather odd collection of charcteriztion traits.

hashtagsarestupid
deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#608: Oct 6th 2012 at 7:55:01 AM

Drunken? Yes. Adulterous and lesbian? Those are news to me...

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#609: Oct 6th 2012 at 8:21:06 AM

Well I don't know how much has been changed between unaired pilot and the first broadcast episode but it has sherlock deducting that from John smart phone that it previous owner was drunk from scratch marks and threw away a marriage six months in from the model and the engraving (to Harry from Clare XXX)

John seems to agree that everything sherlock says it true but corrects him that Harry is short for Harriet.

edited 6th Oct '12 8:27:44 AM by joeyjojo

hashtagsarestupid
TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#610: Oct 6th 2012 at 11:28:59 AM

Adulterous is new to me, but drunk and lesbian isn't.

Just because it was a bad breakup/divorce doesn't mean she's adulterous.

edited 6th Oct '12 11:29:46 AM by TParadox

Fresh-eyed movie blog
joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#611: Oct 6th 2012 at 3:35:12 PM

no but sherlock came to that conclusion and was never corrected by john, who would you imagination would shoot such an smear down unless he at least suspect it was true himself.

hashtagsarestupid
resetlocksley Shut up! from Alone in the dark Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Only knew I loved her when I let her go
Shut up!
#612: Oct 6th 2012 at 6:20:34 PM

[up] Your logic is incomplete. Why assume "threw away a marriage" refers exclusively to adultery?

Fear is a superpower.
joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#613: Oct 6th 2012 at 6:53:02 PM

Because as noted Sherlock came to the conclusion, which was never corrected by john john watson who you would imagination would object to such claims unless he at least suspect there was some truth in the matter.

I can detective metongue

hashtagsarestupid
karasu91 SYMBOLISM!!!! from Sol 3 (Gaia), Milky Way Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
SYMBOLISM!!!!
#614: Oct 7th 2012 at 4:43:46 AM

[up] He said "Marriage's in trouble then..." and "He left her." Not a single word about adultery.

Change, my dear, and not a moment too soon.
joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#615: Oct 7th 2012 at 5:57:34 AM

Again I'm talking about the unaired pilot. The broadcast episode down plays the Adultery angle.

Presumably someone pointed out the Unfortunate Implications with making the only LGTB charcter on the show unfaithful even if they are just refer to in passing.

hashtagsarestupid
PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#616: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:07:15 AM

Gay people are just as capable as being unfaithful as straight people. Holding the LGBT community up as a paragon of virtue is Positive Discrimination. And that's bad.

karasu91 SYMBOLISM!!!! from Sol 3 (Gaia), Milky Way Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
SYMBOLISM!!!!
#617: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:22:19 AM

[up][up] Went and looked up the sequence in the pilot... Still only seeing a marriage quickly sinking after six months, no mention of adultery...

It's always strange when I rewatch that pilot. The music's off and doesn't highlight events nearly as effectively as in the aired version, the directing is less elegant, the lines feel slightly more artificial and, most of all, Sherlock's sort of pleasant!

Change, my dear, and not a moment too soon.
joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#618: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:30:36 AM

[up][up]I'll let the BBC knowtongue

To be fair they did already make her a drunk with a failed marriage in her 30 second of characterization. Implying she was unfaithful on top of that probably was just seen as too unsympathetic for charcter the viewers never meet.

edited 7th Oct '12 6:31:47 AM by joeyjojo

hashtagsarestupid
Nicknacks Ding-ding! Going down... from Land Down Under Since: Oct, 2010
Ding-ding! Going down...
#619: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:52:23 AM

Given how much no one cares about her, I doubt that would have ever been an issue.

This post has been powered by avenging fury and a balanced diet.
joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#620: Oct 7th 2012 at 7:15:23 AM

Left her wife of six months, brother has albut disowned her, likely a borderline alcoholic. No one cares about hersad

[up][up][up]I thought there's a line in the pilot where homes suggested John's unwillingness to go to his 'brother' for help is because his distaste for his affairs but I must of imagined it.

Anyway it's werid watching the series pilot, it mostly the same script it's cinematography is just not as polished. It doesn't even have the shows iconic title theme tune.

edited 7th Oct '12 7:32:24 AM by joeyjojo

hashtagsarestupid
Fiwen9430 Since: Apr, 2010
#621: Oct 8th 2012 at 3:26:51 PM

[up]Her comments on John's blog are great to read, even if he is awful to her sometimes.

Erock Proud Canadian from Toronto Since: Jul, 2009
Proud Canadian
#622: Oct 8th 2012 at 6:54:47 PM

Remember the guy who gets thrown off the roof several times?

I just realized he's incredibly important.

How do you think Sherlock knew he would survive?

And yeah, I just watched the episode, if it's any more obvious that I'm this late.

If you don't like a single Frank Ocean song, you have no soul.
TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#623: Oct 8th 2012 at 7:39:04 PM

Because he only threw him out a window, and 221 B is only on the second floor. Incomparable to jumping off a hospital tower.

Fresh-eyed movie blog
kalel94 Rascal King from Dragonstone Since: Feb, 2011
Rascal King
#624: Oct 9th 2012 at 9:27:54 AM

Plus Mrs. Hudson's bins cushioned his fall.

The last hurrah? Nah, I'd do it again.
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#625: Oct 9th 2012 at 9:29:01 AM

I'd say being thrown out of a second-story window six(?) times is comparable to jumping a hospital roof, though.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.

Total posts: 2,202
Top