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Yeah, I've been getting more than one spam blog asking me to check out their game. I've been around some spam before, though, so I know what's up.

Tumblr winning a Best Community award... I don't like the sound of that. Tumblr's extremes aren't as extreme as 4chan or reddit, but Tumblr at its worst is deaf, blind and oh-so-vocal. Like I'm not touching social justice here - I can see its merits, and it's helped me grow as a person in the past - but even discounting the worst aspects of that, Tumblr is extremely inclusive, snooty and reactionary.

There was a virus scare once where it could apparently "DELETE YOUR BLOG!!!!" and the entire website made a big stink about it, when it was like obviously shifty messages which no-one in their right mind should have thought were real - but it got like 5 signal-boosted posts that basically told you to delete any shifty asks you got (which is common sense) and not to click on any shady-looking blogs (again, common sense).

There's also the matter of the fandoms. Superwholock is one all-encompassing thing, but even smaller fandoms like Avatar: The Last Airbender (separate from Legend of Korra, but I assume they share the same traits) have their moments of trashiness. People were still igniting shipping wars between the big 2 in 2013 - like full-on adults fighting over ships 5 years after the show had ended. To the point of anonymous hate.

The way I see it, Tumblr is immature and reactionary at its core, and not deserving of a "best community" award. It has its merits, and like I said, Tumblr's extremes are mostly Moral Panic-type situations and overreacting over nothing. Compared to the deepest pits of 4chan or any sort of bro-zone on Reddit, it's not bad. but by god, the Tumblr community can go from solid to shambles over nothing in less than 24 hours. It's rubbish - if I hadn't invested nearly 25,000 posts and 2 and a half years into my blog, I'd strongly consider leaving.

I'd still consider Reddit to have some shittyness to it. Namely stuff like r/Fat People Hate and some of the shit I've seen while on r/Subreddit Drama. Plus I've lost count of how many times that r/Game Grumps have gotten in big drama fights(Even back when Jon was on their was still some drama).

I don't really know about any of the other nominees beyond Imgur(who can be pretty annoying). And really, does it matter who wins? It's a award show. Who cares who wins what? Not like it really matters or anything.

Also, coming from someone that hasn't really had much exposure to the Super Who Lock fandom beyond a few things here and there(At most I know that Supernatural is a show my friend is obsessed with it and that I should check it out. Never cared for Doctor Who. And haven't watched Sherlock), what's so bad about it? It just sounds like another crossover fandom like Rise of the brave tangled dragons(or what ever that's called) or Steven Falls Over(Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, and Over the garden wall).

Honestly, who else would you rather get it?

I agree that Tumblr definitely doesn't deserve that reward, but no one else really does, either.

Nope. I'd agree that Tumblr doesn't deserve the award for another reason.

Two words! Shoplifting Fandom!

Good observation. The fact that it's proponents think they are "fighting the system" makes it ever more dangerous & unhealthy.

Though I'd argue that the rampant transphobia is, by far, the worst of Tumblr's ills.

@mukora Maybe that cancer site?

I do agree that while tumblr shouldn't win, there should be no community award because while there might be a lot of good eggs, every community has a lot of assholes and idiots.

It seems to me that the community most deserving of the win is the one with the least assholes within it.

I nominate TV Tropes. And serious question Logo, what do you mean rampant transphobia? I'm not the most perceptive to that kind of thing, but I haven't really noticed much of that, and I've seen plenty of the shittier side of Tumblr.

The whole "transwomen are not real women" thing, the general hostility several blogs share against transmen, the truscum-tucute conflict ^note :the name truscum is already offensive enough, the "transtrender" crowd and, finally, various misconceptions surrounding gender non-conformity and clothing.

It wouldn't be this bad if people weren't so fanatical and hostile about it.

PS: I second Tv Tropes' nomination. Even the trolls here are polite.

Oh yeah...

I wouldn't nominate Tv Tropes myself because no matter how good a community can seem, the more you think there are no bad people, the more likely there are bad people.

But that is me.

edited 23rd Apr '15 7:31:38 AM by EchoingSilence

I'm with you man. I love this site, but it still has idiots and assholes.

No community is completely perfect or pure toxic.

edited 23rd Apr '15 7:41:37 AM by ScottPilgrim2013

And least amount of assholes still means there are assholes. We just rarely see them because there is so many pages to go through.

Haven't we already discussed in this thread before that while historically truscum might be coming from a place of pain, there is still the fact they are using inaccurate information to play gatekeepers?

Like to say it's only truscum vs. tucutes is highly inaccurate.

Can I just say I hate the name "tucutes"? Whether or not I agree with them on anything, the name is just... kind of cringeworthy. (Not that "truscum" is better; using "transmedicalist" or whatever and some... less childish sounding alternative to "tucute" might get people taken more seriously).

Fortunately I don't get tons of that on my dash, at least not the negative aspects; I just get the "your nonbinary identity is real and valid" positivity stuff now and then.

And most of what I follow is Homestuck stuff, cute animals, and roleplay blogs anyway.

I never encounter the term "tucute" on tumblr. I encounter people with nonbinary identities that might make people jeer at them, but usually they have those feelings because of other matters.

Autism apparently is something that can invoke complicated gender feels, for example.

Tucutes are essentially transtrenders and known for their attempts at inventing new genders. And that's what I know.

Yeah I know OF them. Usually from what I've seen it's people mistaking trolls for real people X_x or the people or are mistaking jokes.

For instance Gender of the Day "invents" new genders every day but it's not exactly serious.

Granted at the same time, I do know people who are unsure of their gender, and don't know how to describe it, so it makes sense they might experiment with gender terms and qualifiers that might not be common knowledge.

Well, so long as it ain't Mogai-Archive...

AFAIK some of them do the "nounself" pronoun thing, too.

Which drives me a bit batty since I don't parse "bun" or "kit" or whatever as pronouns; I parse them as nicknames.

I know a person who does that too! From what I can tell, it has to do with, as said before, their own circumstances. They have some physical disabilities that make them heavily identify with certain things, and as a result it reflects how they feel about gender.

"Tucutes" ^note :what a silly name are literally what you'd get if a bunch of people decided, for various reasons, mostly the need to feel special, to go up and say: "Today, I realised that i'm black person. I doesn't matter that my skin is white as snow, i'm still a black person on the inside because I feel like it. If you try to deny this, you're racist trash and trying to opress me."^note :ironically, there's a "transethnic" movement on Tumblr but it's mostly used (and made-up) as a joke/strawman.

The only difference in this case is that you swap colour with gender identity. And, unfortunately, many folks of Tumblr seem to think that it's acceptable not only to support such individuals and their appropriating ways but also insult & harass actual trans persons who dare to call them out.

It's really sad.

edited 23rd Apr '15 8:59:46 AM by LogoP

False equivalence. You can't be an ethnicity you have no genetics in. You can wake up, in a family full of cis people, and realize you're not cis. Also "transethnic" as a concept does exist, it just exists when people are adopted into a different ethnicity. AKA a japanese born kid adopted by a black family in brooklyn would be transethnic.

How do you tell the people who are "making it up" from the people who honestly have weird gender feels? It's like trying to figure out who has depression and who is making it up.

Example on how this is a bad equivalence:

"Today, I realised that i'm black person. I doesn't matter that my skin is white as snow, i'm still a black person on the inside because I feel like it. If you try to deny this, you're racist trash and trying to opress me."

"Today, I realised that i'm a man. I doesn't matter that I have breasts and a vagina, i'm still a man on the inside because I feel like it. If you try to deny this, you're sexist/transphobic and trying to opress me."

edited 23rd Apr '15 9:08:24 AM by MrAHR

Isn't it because Transtrenders literally say that you can be trans without having gender dysphoria?

From what I know Gender dysphoria is where the brain map does not match the body map and from there pain. Or computer analogy, hardware and software are not compatible and pain ensues, which can be fixed with hard work and modification.

And transtrenders try to push this "anyone can be trans" "you can choose to be trans" ideal which many in the LGBT have been trying to fight against because that's what old bigots have be saying to try and prevent them from having basic rights.

Or... do I have something wrong? I wish to know.

Dysphoria is not a requirement to be transgender! It's a separate issue that is often related, but not a necessity. Check the DSM and any transgender resource.

Body Dysphoria is also considered a disability (sorta). Hence why it's in the DSM. However it can only qualify as that if your dysphoria impedes on your ability to function in normal life. This is not true for everyone.

Many will experience social problems, but there are many folk that once gendered appropriately, will have little to no problems with their body.

As for anyone can be trans vs. choosing, it's a double edged sword. Some people do "Choose" to be what they are, in the sense they choose to no longer hide certain aspects of themselves. Also sexuality and gender can be fluid, which is why you might have people in their 50s who say they "became a man, but was a girl in the past"

Also some people are nonbinary who do not feel they are part of the trans community, while others do feel part of the trans community. I know someone who is agender, and they don't experience dysphoria because they have no gender they feel they are wrongly inhabiting. They have no gender. Nothing to feel.

edited 23rd Apr '15 9:19:55 AM by MrAHR

Double post, here is a link explaining the deal