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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#107251: May 12th 2024 at 8:21:37 PM

Also, this chapter showed that Guard Point Chopper blocking Saturn wasn't a fluke as he tanks a bunch more stabs with mild discomfort and then is totally fine afterward. Guard Point is OP, y'all.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#107252: May 12th 2024 at 8:27:53 PM

It'd be darkly humorous if the reason the Roger Pirates laughed at what they discovered at Laugh Tale was because it told them about this exact problem.

In light of that, their laughter could be less genuinely joyful and more "Ha ha...we're all fucked" laughter.

Disgusted, but not surprised
burninganimefan357 Since: Oct, 2012
#107253: May 12th 2024 at 8:35:19 PM

[up] I'm pretty sure that the current Vegapunk revelation is not what is on Laugh Tale. Or at least that's not the only revelation. Luffy was willing to quit the journey if Rayleigh spoiled it for him. The reason for the Roger Pirates laughing will only be revealed when the Straw Hats reach Laugh Tale, not before.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#107254: May 12th 2024 at 8:37:35 PM

Vegapunk notes that what he has is incomplete, so Robin and the crew will only find out the whole story once they make it to Laugh Tale.

Wake me up at your own risk.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#107255: May 12th 2024 at 9:16:01 PM

My money remains on Laugh Tale having a giant drain plug only a user of the Nika fruit can pull to drain the excess water.

My more serious theory is whatever made Roger laugh will actually infuriate Luffy. A lot's been made of how similar they are, so I like the idea that the critical moment will show their differences.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#107256: May 12th 2024 at 9:23:40 PM

Also, I feel like this reaction sequence might be our last chance to see Kuro, Krieg, Axe-Hand Morgan, Foxy, and Gin (if he's still alive) again.

Edited by HamburgerTime on May 12th 2024 at 9:23:52 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#107257: May 12th 2024 at 9:33:13 PM

Another interesting reveal is that

the rising sea level is not a natural occurrence. It's apparently a consequence of the use of the Mother Flame to fire the kill sat weapon. Which means Vegapunk's rediscovery of the Mother Flame (remember that most of his inventions are really him reverse engineering Lost Technology) may have accelerated the global flooding.

No wonder he thinks of himself as a sinner.

It also raises the question of wth was going on back in the Void Century. How often did they fire the damn thing to raise sea levels so high in the first place?

Edited by M84 on May 13th 2024 at 12:34:16 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#107258: May 12th 2024 at 9:55:58 PM

Indeed, if these are things that AREN'T part of the Real Poneglyphs... What the hell IS!?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#107259: May 13th 2024 at 12:57:33 AM

I'll point out again that the New Fishmen Pirates would have found this whole message absolutely hilarious. They'd take it as proof that Fishmen really are superior and the chosen people to inherit the world. If the situation worsens, the humans they hated so much are all going to drown no matter what.

Edited by M84 on May 14th 2024 at 3:58:05 AM

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#107260: May 13th 2024 at 1:02:07 AM

Forget the New Fishman Pirates, show me Arlong's reaction to this broadcast!

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#107261: May 13th 2024 at 1:06:37 AM

[up][up]I wonder if they're hearing about it in prison. We know Doflamingo is.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#107262: May 13th 2024 at 1:08:42 AM

OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised if this disaster has some negative consequences for Fishmen too.

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#107263: May 13th 2024 at 1:28:24 AM

After the fall of the Beast Pirates, Wano Country would have their Transponder Snails right? So they should also be hearing this message, right? Or they could be, anyway.... I'm not being stupid, am I? People from Wano haven't already been shown listening and I just forgot?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#107264: May 13th 2024 at 1:31:02 AM

Speaking of Wano, maybe its walls aren't just meant to keep out invaders but to help protect it from rising sea levels.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#107265: May 13th 2024 at 1:32:26 AM

[up][up] ...I don't think they've been shown listening. I think the last time we checked in with Wano was when the global earthquake happened and the sea levels rose, where we saw Momonosuke watching over as the ground shook. They might be listening, they might not be. That is, assuming Yamato's cover story isn't happening RIGHT NOW, in which case they're probably not.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on May 13th 2024 at 1:32:40 AM

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#107266: May 13th 2024 at 2:37:02 AM

I gotta say, Saturn killing the Den Den mushi looks half funny half disturbing. Those poor snails...

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#107267: May 13th 2024 at 12:43:04 PM

Random thought: anyone else think itโ€™s possible that the Revolutionaries were originally intended as an antagonist faction, but were changed to be entirely heroic when Oda realized there were too many endgame villains already? I feel like that would fit well with how Dragon was portrayed as a sinister figure with vague goals pre-timeskip, as well as with the fact that the World Governmentโ€™s portrayal has over time gone from โ€œdark grayโ€ to โ€œpitch black with a few good applesโ€

diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#107268: May 13th 2024 at 1:58:47 PM

No. I do think Oda maybe intended the Revolutionaries to occasionally resort to questionable means, but I don't think they were ever going to be any sort of antagonist.

AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#107269: May 13th 2024 at 2:09:38 PM

That comment almost made me joke about how Dragon and his pals have done nothing for almost 20 years... but then realized in universe it HAS NOT been anywhere near that long. One Piece lasting so long has really skewed Audiences perception of how much happened in such little time.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#107270: May 13th 2024 at 2:22:04 PM

Yeah, the Revolutionary Army literally attacked Marijoa, like, a month ago.

AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#107271: May 13th 2024 at 2:23:30 PM

[up]Oh WOW. That's a very good example. That so long IRL I forgot.

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#107272: May 13th 2024 at 2:46:05 PM

Earlier in Egghead, it was revealed that the issues with CP agents investigating the island and disappearing goes back to before the Return to Sabaody arc, right? I forget how exactly its phrased, but I think that gave us a general time frame for Post-Time Skip so far, didn't it? (I'm noticing that for some reason, I'm really bad at remembering time frames and sequence this arc. I don't know why)

In any case, point being, post time skip One Piece has happened over a VERY short time. With the exception of Wano, I don't think the Straw Hats have stayed anywhere more then three or four days. If we allow for VERY generous travel times... It can't have been more then three months, four tops, right?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#107273: May 13th 2024 at 3:21:07 PM

York contacted the Elders 3 months ago, but it wasn't stated when that was in relation to the Straw Hats returning.

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#107274: May 13th 2024 at 3:34:09 PM

Hmm. I could've sworn hearing something about that, but maybe that was just some chapter reviewers trying to do the math.

Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#107275: May 13th 2024 at 4:24:01 PM

[up]x8

To chime in on the role of the Revolutionary Army, if a pivot was being made, it wasn't because of Oda realizing there were "too many antagonistic figures", we have been having villain buffets lately, yet he's been flexing, no worse for wear. Assuming that Revolutionaries being wholly heroic wasn't the game plan from the word go (which I highly doubt), it would probably have been more from how... vicious the World Government was becoming. With how shockingly vile they were revealing themselves to be, literally anyone would look better by contrast... and, knowing that, I could see why an author would retool a group as strictly forces for good instead.

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