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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61751: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:06:48 PM

Eh, even then that was just an assumption and not something explicitly stated. It not being Zoan-exlusive makes more sense to me.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#61752: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:13:58 PM

Don't miss something that never existed.

I don't remeber anything that ever implied Awakening was Zoan-exclusive.

edited 22nd Oct '17 10:14:20 PM by slimcoder

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MileRun Since: Jan, 2001
#61753: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:21:35 PM

I know it was an assumption, but it kept the can of worms sealed for about 200-ish chapters before Doffy opened it up on Dressrosa. If not for the fact that the first four awakened fruits we saw were the four Jailer Beasts, who were all Zoans with a consistent awakened effect, we could've been arguing about what awakening meant for the last eight years. Think about that for a second.

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#61754: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:29:00 PM

Considering Zoans tend to be the weakest fruit, it being counted for Logia and Paramecia isn't too surprising.

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#61755: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:39:36 PM

[up][up][up][up] It was a reasonable assumption, given that the specifics we were given could only work with zoans and it had no features that would fit Paramecia or Logia.

Awakened Paramecias currently share nothing beyond the name. I'm fairly sure a common link will be established once we find out more about them, but currently they feel totally different.

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#61756: Oct 23rd 2017 at 12:12:51 AM

We hear from Doflamingo that Awakened Paramecia allow the user to extend their power beyond their body and affect the surrounding environment. Based on the guards, we can infer that Awakened Zoan are a whole new transformation that has immense size, strength, durability, as well as a possible healing factor.

I have to wonder what are the specifics of Awakened Logia. Does it allow you to manipulate natural souces of your element? If so, that's a really lame and underwhelming power-up. Maybe it allows you to make a LOT MORE of whatever your element is, but that wouldn't be that different from the norm.

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#61757: Oct 23rd 2017 at 5:52:55 AM

I'd assume it lets you mess with the environment too. See Punk Hazard.

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Archivist10 Oh for God's sake! Since: Jan, 2013
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#61758: Oct 23rd 2017 at 11:47:24 AM

I know this a loose connection but I thought people would like to see how mochi is made.

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#61759: Oct 23rd 2017 at 12:13:01 PM

Why isn't Luffy just eating his opponent, again?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#61760: Oct 23rd 2017 at 12:15:18 PM

Because Katakuri is smarter than his brother.

Also Luffy doesn't have any back up this time.

edited 23rd Oct '17 12:15:40 PM by slimcoder

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#61761: Oct 23rd 2017 at 12:17:27 PM

I would think Katakuri would respond to any devouring attempts from Luffy by using his mochi to choke him to death.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#61762: Oct 23rd 2017 at 1:46:20 PM

Question: Awakening aside, how much control over his mochi has Katakuri demonstrated once it's separated from his body?

Outside of the earplugs, which were just inert lumps, I can't offhand think of anything he did with his mochi that involved using it apart form his body. Most of what I can think of has been tanking attacks or imitating Luffy.

edited 23rd Oct '17 1:47:26 PM by sgamer82

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#61763: Oct 23rd 2017 at 2:02:06 PM

He clogged all of Bege's cannons seemingly at once.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#61764: Oct 23rd 2017 at 2:07:02 PM

But was that a result of controlling it separately or just accurately firing it off himself?

Archivist10 Oh for God's sake! Since: Jan, 2013
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#61765: Oct 23rd 2017 at 3:54:28 PM

Likely the latter. He did pull himself back together though after Ichiji punched him

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#61766: Oct 23rd 2017 at 5:10:07 PM

The main reason I ask is because of the earlier post that Katakuri would choke Luffy on his mochi and it made me think "Could he actually do that?"

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#61767: Oct 23rd 2017 at 5:13:22 PM

[up]I brought up the choking because a friend of my parents lost someone close that way; they had choked to death on mochi, from what I heard.

I think if Katakuri tried something like that, it'd probably consist of turning his entire arm into mochi then ramming it down someone's throat.

edited 23rd Oct '17 5:27:19 PM by dragonfire5000

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#61768: Oct 23rd 2017 at 5:17:06 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if he actually does that.

Actually he could do that if he found out how Luffy defeated Cracker & becomes infuriated at how his beloved brother was defeated by such an absurd situation.

I'd think it go like "So you like to eat? Then choke on this."

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#61769: Oct 23rd 2017 at 5:22:09 PM

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I can imagine he would so do that to get back at Luffy for defeating him that way.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61770: Oct 23rd 2017 at 5:31:58 PM

It's not like they don't already know Luffy and Nami beat Cracker. Big Mom sent that huge squad and thunderstorm to vapture them, remember?

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#61771: Oct 23rd 2017 at 5:34:18 PM

[up]"Vapture" is a word I never knew I wanted to exist until now. I imagine its definition being "to catch and vaporize someone."

Joking aside, I don't think they know the exact details on how Cracker was defeated, and I suspect it doesn't really matter too much to them at this point.

edited 23rd Oct '17 5:35:00 PM by dragonfire5000

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#61772: Oct 23rd 2017 at 5:35:01 PM

Yeah but they don't know how he lost.

There is something particularly humiliating from losing due to your opponent actually eating your weapons even if they are edible. Cracker was practically fuming at how ridiculously stupid the whole situation was.

edited 23rd Oct '17 5:35:47 PM by slimcoder

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61773: Oct 23rd 2017 at 5:43:09 PM

Katakuri does not seem like the type to care about something like that to me. He's already planning to kill Luffy; the exact details don't really matter at this point.

Archivist10 Oh for God's sake! Since: Jan, 2013
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#61774: Oct 24th 2017 at 1:52:38 PM

Seeing as the Big Mom Pirates Devil fruit theme seems to be Heart Is an Awesome Power Paramecias, I wonder if there'll be more themed pirates in the other Yonko crews. Aside merely, food themed or animal themed.

Kaido: Boring, but Practical Zoans?

Blackbeard: Awesome, but Impractical and/or Difficult, but Awesome fruits?

Shanks: No idea, but considering the Red Hair Pirates seemed to be presented as the ideal positive freedom loving side of piracy I'm genuinely curious to see what they can do

edited 24th Oct '17 2:00:58 PM by Archivist10

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