Ouch, that's not good.
Isn't recording for Book 4 done though? I doubt this will be a major problem.
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Or kill him for being a liability.
...For some reason, I'm sorta expecting something from Vaatu.
I mean, I doubt there'll be a 10000 year timeskip.
But Korra was able to get Raava back after like an hour. Albeit with some help. So.
edited 23rd Aug '14 9:45:08 AM by unnoun
Darling.
That did give me some pause.
...Yeah, that's kinda fucked up.
The lines from Vaatu did seem to be hinting at something and the Red Lotus might realize that if they can't defeat Korra alone they should get Vaatu to help them. That runs the risk of being too much like the season 2 finale though.
I'm not sure we should take the words of a drug-induced hallucination as truth.
They can always just not have giant blue and/or people.
Or have an actual anti-avatar that can bend all the elements.
We still haven't really seen that yet.
Vaatu's hallucination said more things than the other two.
And he should be in Korra somewhere.
edited 23rd Aug '14 9:51:27 AM by unnoun
Darling.
@un: It's weird. He seems reasonable on some points, but as I went through his article it just got more uncomfortable.
edited 23rd Aug '14 9:52:18 AM by edvedd
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At one point he says "I'm stronger than ever now." The others just criticized her and said she was unneeded but that seemed to be something more. It was like Vaatu was threatening her.
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
I'd be amazed if Vaatu was done for the series. He's gotta play into something.
Oh really when?
Still just awesome like that
I've already ranted about Rollins and his article all over my Facebook feed, so I'm not gonna bring that all here, considering it's really only tangentially related.
edited 23rd Aug '14 9:53:29 AM by Odd1
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Apparently, lavabenders get their lava from Minecraft-verse. Also made sense that Bolin (being half fire and half earth) would be more attuned to lava-bending than with metalbending.
I like what they did with Jinora way way way more in this season than in the previous season.
The most interesting ship got sunk. Dammit.
Tallying.
Air - Flying and Vacuuming
Earth - Metalbending and Lavabending | Sandbending (though airbenders can probably do this too)
Water - Bloodbending and Healing | Vinebending
Fire - Combustion (like lasers?) and Lightning
I'm pretty sure Jinora's Astral Projection technique is a subset of Airbending.
If they have another Red Lotus group with special powers I wonder what they'll have them do. Lightning, Sand, and Blood maybe?
Maybe. Or maybe just mean really high spirit power. Guru Pathik may be able to do it.
edited 23rd Aug '14 10:04:50 AM by probablyinsane
Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.
I don't think Vaatu's line was meant to be indicative of anything real. All three of them were basically playing on Korra's fears of failure and obsoleteness, and that can hardly be more potently represented than by the idea of Korra's opposite, the spirit of chaos and darkness, roaming free and at full strength. I think Vaatu just had a bit more screentime because he is more emblematic of the things that Korra feels she has to prevent.
About the Red Lotus; I'm sure they'll continue to have a presence in the next season. I just don't like this apparently common interpretation that, oh, the Red Lotus won, because they surely have tons of influential members around the world that haven't been captured yet, and Korra just barely scratched the surface of their awesome might by taking out Zaheer's gang. Saying that Zaheer is just some low-ranking chump in the service of the "real" Red Lotus just strikes me as a cheap way to give credit to whoever the next villain will be by retroactively claiming the last Big Bad was actually just his minion.
Jinora called it an airbender move.
Jinora: "It worked!"
Kai: "How are you here right now?"
Jinora: "Shh, quiet. It's a high-level airbender move. With a little spiritual stuff thrown in."
Air was always the most spiritual element.
I mean, the nice part was the ambiguity of it.
edited 23rd Aug '14 10:10:15 AM by unnoun
I didn't mean it was a bad thing. Well, it was, but everyone's like, "That is the saddest thing ever. Poor Korra. She's not that OP. Nobody deserves this! Why did the writers do this!?"
Korra being traumatized is a solid plot point that couldn't be wiped away in the final episode. They didn't just skip forward three/four months and show her recovering. I applaud this.
I didn't say he was, but hypocritical douchebag isn't the best pair of words. I don't remember exactly how that person said it, but the gist was that the same degradation that befell Amon and Unalaq would, inevitably, land on Zaheer as well.
She didn't, you're right.
I certainly don't feel this was a big a downer as book two of ATLA. Korra's traumatised, but the bad guys were at least defeated and there are actual positive, hopeful elements to the ending. There was no positive side to the ending of "Book Two" other than that, I guess, the heroes were still alive.
Agreed.
Make that three.
edited 23rd Aug '14 10:14:15 AM by FOFD
Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
But Zaheer never became hypocritical unlike Amon and Unalaq
Speaking of Unalaq and Red Lotus, didn't Red Lotus say they didn't realize Unalaq had betrayed them until he released Vaatu? I mean, maybe they thought he was undercover or something?
I liked how someone made the comparison between Captain America The Winter Soldier and the finale of Book 3. The Red Lotus is basically the Avatar world's version of HYDRA.
I don't believe the Vacuum was a "sub-bending." Based on what you actually have to have the natural "talent" or training to do, these are what I'd call the subsets.
- Air: Astral Projection and Flying
- Earth: Magmabending, Metalbending, Seismic Sensing
- Fire: Combustionbending, Lightningbending, Lightning Redirection
- Water: Bloodbending, Healing
Pretty much every earthbender can bend sand and waterbender can turn wter into ice but not everyone is capable of healing or metal bending.
edited 23rd Aug '14 10:27:58 AM by Lionheart0
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I really wouldn't see it as "degrading" really. I'd see it as a frank reminder that this is WHY they are not the hero. Both sides should have flaws in my opinion, but the line that separates one from the other is that villains succumb to their failings. And just because they aren't purely cackling maniacs doesn't mean they still aren't dangerous people who need to be stopped.
edited 23rd Aug '14 10:28:55 AM by Prime_of_Perfection
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that was me i think
now im not saying the red lotus won, but they scored pretty good blows against the avatar and the world leaders, they take out one monarch and let ba sing se into chaos, and almost kill the avatar, they just lost 3 members
so the real point is....how strong the red lotus can be?
edited 23rd Aug '14 10:35:49 AM by unknowing
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At the moment, he is a flat, cackling maniac who failed his objective, lost most of his known allies, welshed a hostage exchange, and had a sock stuffed in his mouth. I would be very surprised if the writers show what becomes of him, meaning that the White Lotus didn't just kill him outright, given how dangerous he is, and with the possibility of more Red Lotus coming to free him.
Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
As if we didn't need another thing to be uncomfortable about in the finale, the AV Club review of the episodes
reminded me of this little tidbit and made a connection that I hadn't: