Yeah, it should probably be limited to 2 or 3 songs per work, max.
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's PlayI seriously regretted adding a separate page for the Mass Effect soundtracks. Every track from both games is listed there.
Yeah, should be about songs that, even in a soundtrack that all in all is great, stands out. If the whole soundtrack becomes considered the trope, it's... not that trope, because it's consistently great, with no part of it being the crowning one.
Any "All of it" examples of Crowning Music Of Awesome should probably be smithed into a Gushing About Soundtracks You Like instead.
Crowning Music Of Awesome should've been renamed when the other crowning moments were. the "crowning" part was taken out of the definition and they were labeled subjective, so technically any moment someone perceives as awesome fits in there. if the music trope gets the same treatment, Music Of Awesome: the whole soundtrack is perfectly valid. i don't know why the change never happened, though... probably The Situation.
as for whether a page icon can be added, there's been some discussion here.
(i'm more worried about the overlap with Ear Worm, myself...)
I'd be all for cutting it. It adds no useful information to a works article; it's just Gushing. Ear Worm covers the catchy tunes you just can't help singing.
edited 22nd Nov '10 7:38:28 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Yeah, if people can't narrow down their selection to, at most, a top 5, then zap the example.
Accidental mistakes are forgivable, intentional ones are not.If you'd ask me, I think the current mess should be turned into Gushing About Soundtracks You Like (I know there's a music section on Gushing About Shows You Like, but it's a... lot smaller) and also that we create a non-Crowning/Awesome new trope for the original meaning (music that enhances a scene).
Unless I'm mistaken, we already have a trope for "music that enhance a scene", it's Theme Music Power-Up.
edited 22nd Nov '10 4:15:32 PM by AceNoctali
"Your kindness gives me the presentiment I can be reborn. Now, I want to believe at least in you." - Kaori YaeRead the descriptions of Crowning Music of Awesome and Theme Music Power-Up—the former is about music enhancing a scene, while the latter is about a character's theme coming on as they're about to start kicking ass.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.I'm leaning towards a cut here since really, this adds nothing. "I liked this song!" is not useful information.
^^ Laconic Theme Music Power Up seems to differ with the main article's definition then.
"Your kindness gives me the presentiment I can be reborn. Now, I want to believe at least in you." - Kaori Yae^^ Which is why we have the YMMV tab.
Dump it into Crowning Music/Your Trope Here.
Half-Life: Dual Nature, a crossover story of reasonably sized proportions.I'd say just take Crowning out of the title and call it Music Of Awesome or Awesome Music.
I am also worried about the Ear Worm overlap though. They are supposed to be different things- a song can be great to listen to and a highlight of the work it appears in without being catchy, and vice versa.
@Ace: Not really, no. Laconic says that when you hear the character's theme music, they're about to do something awesome.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.I want a rename instead of a cut. It's pretty much an excuse to link the game's soundtrack on youtube, but that's no reason to cut all of it.
edited 22nd Nov '10 5:02:30 PM by DrStarky
Put me in motion, drink the potion, use the lotion, drain the ocean, cause commotion, fake devotion, entertain a notion, be Nova Scotian^^ Lifted straigth from Laconic Theme Music Power-Up :
"When you hear that music, you know that awesome will follow."
Where is the mention of character in that sentence ?
edited 22nd Nov '10 5:06:46 PM by AceNoctali
"Your kindness gives me the presentiment I can be reborn. Now, I want to believe at least in you." - Kaori YaeLook at the pothole—it's to Crowning Moment Of Awesome (since renamed to Moment of Awesome), which is (and I quote from that trope page) "A moment when a fictional character does something for which they will be remembered forever, winning for them the eternal loyalty of fans."
While the laconic may be poorly written (they're not supposed to rely on potholes), it is not, in fact, completely inaccurate.
edited 22nd Nov '10 5:09:19 PM by Ironeye
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.Aren't the Crowning moments all suppose to be YMMV anyway? There are no facts on the pages. Only opinions about what people think are the best. Why should that be limited to one or two examples if many people think different?
I agree that examples of "Every song in the game" or "The entire soundtrack" should be deleted, because that is one person voicing their opinion that every song counts.
The Video Games section isn't the only place that suffers from "the entire soundtrack".
I went into the Film subpage and chopped out a lot of crap. "The entire soundtrack", Word Cruft, Natter, and repetition all got the chainsaw, and the page is probably still stupidly long.
I didn't even try to attack the first-person stuff, I don't have all week.
All your safe space are belong to Trump^^^ Poorly written it is indeed. If you have to do mental gymnastic to understand it meant "character theme" in that convoluted way, you know there's a problem.
"Your kindness gives me the presentiment I can be reborn. Now, I want to believe at least in you." - Kaori YaeSo, why wasn't this de-crowned along with the Moments, again?
Just rename it to Music Of Awesome or Awesome Music and dump examples (the useful ones!) into the Crowning Music namespace.
... Though, the namespace would also need to be de-crowned. That would be rather more effort than just the page.
edited 22nd Nov '10 9:54:38 PM by billybobfred
she her hers hOI!!! i'm tempei don't see what the big deal is. just make it go the same way the moment tropes did, take out the "crowning" part and move it to the YMMV tab (or its own tab, it already exists but it needs an icon, i think). that's a good solution as far as i'm concerned— it's worked with all the others. no need to cut the awesome music altogether or anything.
although yeah, i agree that examples that are unclear, nattery or that say nothing should definitely be purged. it's not gushing for gushing's sake, at least mention the name of the song and say what makes it awesome...
I agree with the last two posters. I think it should be renamed to Music Of Awesome.
^Not actually my favorite animal.Please don't cut this. Move it to a Just for Fun page at the very worst, but I, and I'm sure many others, very much enjoy going through the page to find awesome bits of music to listen to.
Crown Description:
What would be the best way to fix the page?
Crowning ____ of Awesome was created to highlight specific moments in a work that were really good, funny, cool, heartwarming, etc. But now, they've become super subjective.
But the worst by far is Crowning Music Of Awesome. On so many game pages, we get something like this: "Crowning Music Of Awesome: Every single song in the game." "Crowning Music Of Awesome: The whole soundtrack." No longer highlighting individual songs, just saying "yeah, the music is good." It's super subjective as a trope anyway, but ridiculous to see it used this way.
Could this be excised, or could a "crowning music" button appear at the top of articles instead, like we have with other crownings?