Shadowrun

So... What's the current status on FastJack and his struggle with CFD? I read somewhere that he apparently managed to develop a cure of sorts, but that it's an imperfect one in some way.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

If anyone wants to understand where a lot of the Cyberpunk Genre and its tropes came from and haven't already done so, go read Neuromancer or even get the pretty solid audiobook on audible.

Who watches the watchmen?

Shadowrun Sixth Edition is announced

Not too surprising after all the... issue 5th edition has had, but I don't have much hope 6th will be any less broken.

I do get feeling that it will follow Shadowrun anarchy in terms of trying to be more streamlined

But yeah, I think Shadowrun being kinda broken is almost part of Shadowrun by now :p

(on sidenote, I hope we get more Shadowrun computer games eventually)

Marq: reading storm front, aparenetly fackjack was devolping a sort of seprare identity who was giving trouble and eventually they find how ehich mean he stop being admin of jackchat.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

SR 6 was released this weekend at Gencon

And it's bad

And not in a "Whaaa, I don't like these rules" way

The books are a mess, with passages contradicting one another. Rules that are hinted to exist but do not. Clear issues with the write up.

Add on to the terrible write up some changes that make no real sense both in universe, and from a rules point of view ^note For example: Caseless Ammo, which was the standard for previous editions, is now rare, with Cased Ammo (with RFID tags on the case) being standard. So did the corps convince every world military, police department and crime group to dump their supplies of guns and ammo? And everyone just went along with that? To make matters worse, Runners can erase the tags of bullets, and with 5 dice pool, you can buy enough hits to do 300 bullets an hour. So it's not an obstacle, you just sit down in front of the trid and do during downtime. So besides being a change that makes no sense in universe, it's a change that just adds tediousness to the player. In an edition that promised to cut down on bloat.

The passage Explaining that spirits can look Metahuman because "Argle Bargle, foofaraw, hey diddy hoe diddy, no one knows"◊ has become a meme with "Argle Bargle" and "diddy hoe diddy, no one knows" becoming a common reply to questions about rules or the state of the book.

There's already a 10 page errata, and the book just launched. That should tell you how bad the editing is.

The Shadowrun subredit is filled with choice example of wtf from the core book.

Edited by Ghilz on Aug 4th 2019 at 4:44:25 AM

And what of metaplot? I want to now what Is the thing now

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

No news, but it's only the corebook, which tends to be low on metaplot stuff beyond the current status quo.

So the answer to your query is yes, the lore is broken too

Hrmm. I was hoping this would be a good jumping on point. Would any of this matter to someone not already familiar with the material?

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Im sorry but my phone cant see Google, can you put the lore thing here?

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

Ok, so I have had the chance to get fully back into Shadow Run.

The local gaming con "Nuke Con" had several Shadowrun 5th Ed missions. It was pretty fun despite the fact I was running a pre-gen. I found out they run Saturday night sessions at local game shop and joined that. I also got a chance to play the 6th ed at a Demo session at the convention. 6th Ed has its problems but I did appreciate the simplification of some rules. Its functional but they still need to iron out the bugs and maybe do some reprints.

Right now we are going to play the living 5th Ed campaign stuff and wait for the 6th Ed Missions and then wait and see what happens with the 6th Ed Core book.

I made a new Character for the table. He is a Japanese Elven Street Samurai who is currently living and Running in Neo-Tokyo.

The poor bastard has a criminal background of trying to escape the criminal life and what he saw as an inevitable future with the Yakuza. So he left the street crime gig to only wind up a Yakuza errand boy to make creds as a runner.

The session had us running three separate gigs. Mostly low pay but we were playing as relatively new runners earning our rep from the ground up. So far so good.

Who watches the watchmen?

So did 6e stuff get erratad yet or is it clear case of "Company is running out of money"?

Any news on the sequel Equinox? - there was some buzz about it while back but not much about since

Edited by jormis29 on Mar 14th 2020 at 11:02:34 PM

Working on cleaning up List of Shows That Need Summary

Man, I forgot to check back on this thread for so long.

I see Assimilation Plot being associated with Horizon on the trope article as well as said megacorp's entry on the character sheet, but with zero elaboration on what that entails. Can someone please explain what it is, preferably while pointing at sourcebooks that contain relevant information?

Also, the "Moore's Law applied at the corporate level" line in NeoNET's entry doesn't make sense; Moore's law predicts the doubling of transistor number in ICs every two or so years, with a corollary second law about related research costs experiencing a similarly steady increase, neither of which are relevant to NeoNET/Novatech's infamous Back from the Dead trend.

And which sourcebook did the "Lofwyr criticized Dunkelzahn's hero-worshippers on Shadowland and then crashed the server to erase his post" thing happen in?

... That does not answer my question. At all. You simply reiterated what should've been very obvious from the way I phrased my question as something that I already know.

Edited by MarqFJA on Aug 5th 2020 at 3:42:26 PM

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...So, is it kosher to talk about the Shadowrun games from Harebrained Schemes like Shadowrun Returns, Shadowrun: Dragonfall, and Shadowrun: Hong Kong here?

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Sure why not

There's no way you can errata'd the books. You can fix some stuff via errata, sure, but the 6th edition is fundamentally flawed in many ways, and has so much nonsensical broken crap you'd basically make an errata longer than the book itself.

It has gotten some Errata but that's like putting duct take on a collapsing building.

Alright, thanks for the consent.

...So, what would be the best Edition of the game, mechanically and lore/fluff-wise?

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Mechanically maybe 4th? They all have flaws because Shadowrun fans, like a lot of RPG fans, are giant grognard who abhor change, so Shadowrun is loathe to look at the core of its system and rebuild from 0, so a lot of core issues never get fixed. I'd say 4th (Anniversary Version) is probably the most functional.

Story wise? 1st through 3rd is all pretty good. Universal brotherhood in first, And the Renraku Archology metaplot of third are REALLY good. The later is prolly the consensus Coz Shadowrun keeps going back to Deus as a villain.

Incidently Shadowrun Returns' Dead Man's Switch basically is set in Universal Brotherhood.

Heard someone claim that 5th is best one and 4th is okay one

Anyway, I figure out "hey I enjoyed reading my few(I have like 2 I think?) fifth edition shadowrun books for setting info, jackpoint conversations and such. So since I never seem to get to play it more and I think rules are such a mess, what if I just buy the meta plot books and enjoy them as fiction books?"

So did that as experiment and was delighted to notice Shadowrun Returns reference in Dark Terrors supplement xD (context one of runners is like "Remember Jack the Ripper?" and the other ones start listing massive list of "Do you mean x?" including Emerald City Ripper from Returns :D Glad to see games are at least somewhat canon)