Post your random thoughts.

Yep. I'm like Vassili Zaitsev when it comes to hitting those little eggy buggers, it seems.

Yeah, luckily they are both tiny, but if Sproglet 2 is a boy it'll be even more urgent.

edited 22nd Nov '14 12:30:18 PM by InverurieJones

I hadn't known Sproglet Boogaloo was still in development, but I was surprised a month or two ago when talk of the Sproglets became plural.

Randomly: There are several reasons that I don't want to have children, but the main ones are:

1: I don't want to pass on Autism and OCD to them

2: I hate responsibility, being honest here

3: I hate the "it's a boy" or "It's a girl" thing at birth. Like, they haven't formed a personal gender identity yet, so we just slap one on them based on genitals. I know it's practical and stuff, but if i had kids i'd be annoyed at having to assign them a gender that they might not even agree with, if that makes sense.

4: I am terrible with people

edited 22nd Nov '14 12:36:45 PM by ElectricNova

My brother is majorly, majorly autistic (barely communicative, violent tendencies), and I'm a little concerned about carrying that genetically.

I feel no qualms about assigning a placeholder gender identity at birth based on genital configuration so long as the idea that it's not set in stone and if you feel like it doesn't fit it's perfectly okay to announce that you're the other gender or both genders or a third gender or no gender.

edited 22nd Nov '14 12:44:13 PM by TParadox

@ Jonesy. Good luck! Good luck! Good luck!!!!

I would like to have babbus! They would be adorable and cute. And then I would indoctrinate them into the liberal-communist-Muslim-Hitler-Nazi way of life I have.

About the genders of the babbus. I would be okay with putting them as cigendered. I don't really care. If they're trans or gay later in life, its no biggie to me. Its just a simple request form to the city council.

edited 22nd Nov '14 12:50:29 PM by Inhopelessguy

Unfortunately, in many places it IS set in stone, although that's becoming less so.

Although unfortunately, many of those who do have processes to change legal gender don't recognise a third gender or no gender.

But changing legal gender is really fucking hard.

Which is why I haven't been able to do it yet. I haven't even changed my name yet. I might get that for Christmas though.

Time to go play Skyrim or something, I guess.

@ Little Little Sis. I never realised that. Hmmm. Well, I will do whatever I can anyway.

Hopey - the actual process, to my understanding, involves you having to live as that gender for two years, having a diagnosis of gender dysphoria from a select list of therapists, and being able to show you're living as that gender as a whole.

The big issue that comes up quite often is how hard it can be to live as your desired gender without suffering a harsh reaction. While it's possible to simply having a driving license, a couple of bills and a tax notice and be done with it, doing that much can be extremely difficult.

-eyes sparkle with ferociousness-

-determined face-

I will help my trans-child to do that!

I will kill and eat all those who oppose.

I don't even know what step i have to take yet, to be honest.

I'm wearing fem clothes 95% of the time now, so that's not an issue.

But like, I'm still not sure exactly what i need to do.

Fuck the system, seriously

Nova, it's about documents, and that's about it. Show them a driving license and they're happy. Other stuff is considered ancillary, but that driving license is all you need.

So my plan is basically.

1: Go to clinic, get diagnosis/change my name (in either order, doesn't matter right?)

2: Hopefully get on HRT

3: Get a driving licsense with new name

4: Wait 2 years

5: Get assesed by a bunch of cis people to see if i'm trans enough for them

6: ??

7: PROFIT

Eh? You literally just need to have a driving license that says say 'Miss Alice' rather than 'Mr Bob'. Once you've done that, that's enough. Their requirement is literally that you're diagnosed and that you've been living as Miss Alice for two years, with which a driving license shows that.

It's literally black and white, and if you can show a driving license, that's enough.

Is 18 the age limit in the UK?

@Nova: Yep. At least its better than the system over here. I have most of that stuff and still can't change my documentation.

edited 22nd Nov '14 1:20:48 PM by smokeycut

16 for both gay and straight sex.

And 18 to change your personal deets (although you can do it at sixteen if you want).

edited 22nd Nov '14 1:20:54 PM by Inhopelessguy

I just find it stupid. I have no idea if i'll be able to get a driving liscense any time soon, so the reliance on that one form of proof baffles me a bit.

And I still have to wait 2 years after that, which just sucks.

But yeah, i may have been exageerating on the other parts, but when i hear "gender recognition panel" that's the only image that comes into my head.

It's literally a group of people who say 'Yep, they've done that, I see Dr Curtis has said it's fine, so let's do it.'

The hardest part is getting the diagnosis from the GIC, and once you're there, you're all good.

So.... getting the diagnosis basically depends on removing bits of truth that don't fit with the accepted trans narrative so that your experiences fit within their framework, right?

I just feel that 2 years is way too long of a time just to "Prove" that you're living as that gender

That depends on the clinic you go to - some are much better than others, and the NHS ones depend on Real Life Experience.

Which I am loathe to say, and hate.

I think the two years requirement (not that I agree with it) is because performing gender surgery is pretty cost-intensive. So two years is just to see if you legit need it, and its not a phase blah blah blah blah.

But but but

I don't even want surgery, i don't think

i don't care what set of bits i have, the hormones and the legal status are all i'm looking for

They don't care for surgery, it's mentioned but their decision isn't part of it. If you say you don't want it for health reasons, for your own choice, or something else, they accept it provided you're on or have been on hormone therapy.

edited 22nd Nov '14 1:34:22 PM by RatherRandomRachel