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146001 Zersk24th Dec 2012 04:03:07 PM from Columbia District, BNA
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Oh you mean the "There is no Fourth Dimension" video? :o Well this is just silly. :/ Fans need to stop being silly.

Also that video doesn't really say anything like that does it? :/

edited 24th Dec '12 4:03:58 PM by Zersk

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146002 Keybreak24th Dec 2012 04:18:13 PM from amid it all , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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Yes, that video I believe.

Oh I'm so happy, you actually know what I'm talking about.

Reich says that you can't really call time the fourth dimension because you can't really call the first three respectively length, width and depth because you can turn them around.

So, I don't think it really says that Bryanton is wrong. In fact, Bryanton also says that it doesn't matter what you call a dimension, "a rose is a rose and all that".

Reich does mention separating spatial dimensions from temporal dimensions, but I don't know TOO much about the fighting, so.
146003 Zersk24th Dec 2012 04:24:28 PM from Columbia District, BNA
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That doesn't sound too much like fighting. :o Just the fans being silly I guess. :p

Also four spatial dimensions is a really cool thought. :3

I usually just think of time as the "Zeroeth dimension" or something.

You know if it can even exist devoid of any space. :o
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146004 Keybreak24th Dec 2012 04:36:34 PM from amid it all , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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Yes, fans are crazy. That's true for any fandom. ;p

And really a point is the zeroth dimension. "Infinitely small, no length, width, or depth."

And I always think that a dimension has one more point than its own number to define it.

You need two points to define a one-dimensional line, three points for a two-dimensional triangle, four points for a three-dimensional tetrahedron, and I believe that you need five points for a four-dimensional five-cell.

Time dimensions are something totally apart from spatial.

edited 24th Dec '12 4:40:09 PM by Keybreak

146005 Zersk24th Dec 2012 04:40:46 PM from Columbia District, BNA
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I suppose, but it's easier to explain to people that way so they don't start thinking that the next step up (y'know, mathematically) from three spatial dimensions is one temporal one. :p
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146006 Keybreak24th Dec 2012 04:45:18 PM from amid it all , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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As far as practical science goes, people just like to call the 4th time.

I read somewhere that time may just be a measurement of change than anything concrete, what with spacetime being curved and all. It's why I would think that a universe in which nothing moved could literally be timeless.

...I always appreciate how willing you are to talk to me Zersk. :P I can't find enough people as interested in this stuff.
146007 Zersk24th Dec 2012 04:46:58 PM from Columbia District, BNA
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Key: Yeah, but four spatial dimensions is more fun! :p I was talking to one guy at school who said he attempted to play 4-D Tic-Tac-Toe. :o Right after we finished playing 3-D Tic-Tac-Toe. :p

But it is interesting! :3 -Glomps- X3
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146008 LooseCannon24th Dec 2012 04:47:53 PM from Everywhere and Nowhere
The Groose Is Loose

I said that time is always relative, but he said that time is constant, and only our perception of it is relative.
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146009 Zersk24th Dec 2012 04:51:19 PM from Columbia District, BNA
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Well that's silly, because we've observed it to be relative. :3 The GPS systems are built on timekeeping to tell you where you are, and they had to be corrected according to relativity to work. :p
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146010 Keybreak24th Dec 2012 04:51:32 PM from amid it all , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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-glomped- Hehe. -tickles- But yeah, four spatial dimensions WOULD be more fun. Though harder to work with. I keep trying to get into Flatland so I could maybe read Sphereland later and try to get a better sense of it.

Course I've been thinking about dimensions for years. I might've been a physics major if all the other things I had to do for physics weren't so mind-numbingly boring.

Though I might like to play 4D Tic-Tac-Toe...though only after I play 3D. ;p You ever see those 4D Rubik's cubes? They're haaaaard.

@Loose I think that as far as the universe cares, "time" is "constant", just because physical laws seldom change.
146011 LooseCannon24th Dec 2012 04:53:20 PM from Everywhere and Nowhere
The Groose Is Loose
Well how are you supposed to know if it's constant or relative if your perception of it (Clocks as well) affects how you see it?

Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
146012 Zersk24th Dec 2012 04:56:30 PM from Columbia District, BNA
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Key: -Tickled- Hee! X3 Yeah I've seen those things. :o

Lucey: I don't follow. :/
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146013 LooseCannon24th Dec 2012 04:57:33 PM from Everywhere and Nowhere
The Groose Is Loose
I don't really follow either. 9_6
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146014 Keybreak24th Dec 2012 05:00:01 PM from amid it all , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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Like how before you look into Schrodinger's box, the cat is both alive and dead?
146015 Zersk24th Dec 2012 05:00:22 PM from Columbia District, BNA
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Wouldn't that mean that time is relative, if from the perspective of any object it is? How can it be considered constant then? Is there some kind of omniscient incorporeal watcher which this thing is based on? I suppose that could work with the concept of God, but now we are veering away from the sciences. :/

Anyway, going for a walk for a bit, be back soon. :3

^ See, now that makes more sense, since that's just a thought experiment to understand quantum superposition. :p

edited 24th Dec '12 5:00:58 PM by Zersk

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146016 Keybreak24th Dec 2012 05:02:55 PM from amid it all , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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;p As I remember, that box was more just supposed to be a joke.

But whenever you look at something you're actually seeing it from the past, because the light had to take time to travel to your eyes, then the information had to travel up into your brain.

And as for God, you could just call it the guiding hand of fate. Or scientific laws, meh.

Anyway, later kitten.

edited 24th Dec '12 5:03:05 PM by Keybreak

146017 Parable24th Dec 2012 09:22:36 PM from California , Relationship Status: Star-crossed
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I sent some online Christmas gifts and several people wondered if my name was being used by the Herald Bot. I find this highly amusing.
And it's a long way forward, so trust in me. I'll give them shelter, like you've done for me
146018 sabrina_diamond25th Dec 2012 12:01:27 AM from inside my own belly... , Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Merry Christmas all (Has a true smile about her) I survived the end of the world, take that fate! Ha

edited 25th Dec '12 12:38:42 AM by sabrina_diamond

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146019 Zersk25th Dec 2012 01:11:57 AM from Columbia District, BNA
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Hey Sabrina. :3
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146020 sabrina_diamond25th Dec 2012 01:51:20 AM from inside my own belly... , Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Hi Zersk, merry christmas :D

edited 25th Dec '12 1:54:09 AM by sabrina_diamond

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146021 SBaneN25th Dec 2012 01:55:05 AM from Somewhere calm
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Fate...

Who needs fate...

It is not an 8.

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I'll probably get something more random later today @_@"

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Anyway...

MERRY CHRISTMAS, I guess.

— Does one have to ask for permission to make a new page? Just asking out of curiousity, as my page is becoming a bit full with all the information about my Cave Story mods and thus making it take longer for vandals to find the vandalism folder.

edited 25th Dec '12 2:59:20 AM by SBaneN

Dear TBS: What's the point of you compressing A Christmas Story for time when you're running it on a twenty-four hour marathon?

-blinks- What? That's… completely and utterly stupid
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Silly putty is the best Christmas present ever.
146025 KylerThatch26th Dec 2012 12:52:10 AM , Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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I'd rather have spooky putty.
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