The Walking Dead

"I'm taking a gap year right now to focus on acting for a while. Leaving Walking Dead wasn't my decision," Riggs revealed. "It was all story related. It made sense story-wise for it to happen for Rick and Michonne and all the other characters."

"I didn't expect for Carl to ever get killed off," Riggs admitted. "But it serves a good purpose in the story. There's still a little more left in Carl's story — in episode nine — and that impacts Rick, Michonne and everyone. Although Carl's story is coming to an end, it's not over yet."

http://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/2017/12/11/the-walking-dead-leave-show-carl-chandler-riggs/

edited 28th Feb '18 9:44:49 PM by CharlesPhipps

Simon is a better Negan than Negan.

I was surprised that I felt sympathy for Jadis.

So, I've been working on this outline for a fanfic, wherein the show's timeline changes dramatically. Shane actually murders Rick in Season 2, Better Angels. I always thought it was interesting how this scene could have gone the other way. Rick would be dead and Shane wouldn't know about the infection. Carl took an unspecified amount of time to show up and see Shane dead originally. All he saw was Rick standing over Shane's body.

Roadblock: do I write the winter portion, or skip it like the show did?

I'm thinking just skip the winter season, but then Shane might not lead the group the way Rick did, and there's no bearing on what the group did besides toughen up. But then I'm thinking Shane would push the group toward a military base of some kind. It took Rick and Daryl all winter to find the prison, so it could thesibly take a less unified group longer, or about the same amount of time.

If I didn't skip it, it'd still behoove the writing process to avoid winter since there's no material for that, and I don't want or need to change things that much. The show skipped it for practical reasons . I was thinking, maybe change the timeline so that the events of Season 3 happen just before winter, and then use the "end" of Season 3 for a time skip. But then, I'm not sure if Shane would create the same "prison society" that Rick did.

Freaking Tara.

I'm gonna kill you for turning Dwight, even though I was once in your shoes.

I saw a tweet that pointed out the same point. Tara is getting so boring and annoying.

Extreme close-up!

edited 13th Mar '18 1:07:32 PM by Mizerous

Does it seem like Simon has gotten a villain upgrade in the back half of season eight?

Michael Rooker (Merle) had a vision for how the show should end.

...this man was killed off in Season 3.

You're Rick, right? I'm Patrick!◊

I don't want to get my hopes up, but that was one of the better episodes in a while.

Agreed. I'd say it's the best one since the board meeting one.

"Most in my social circle who still watch the show complain about how they keep trying to spare the Saviors instead of just straight-up killing them. "

Ufffff here people think Rick should just be like Simon and PURGE THE UNCLEAN!

yeah.

Also, I think Rick have gone insane....again, I mean is hard to see him...

Actually, how much sanity does rck have? he have suffer at breakdown at least twice.

Not much.

One of those oh so rare "show > comic" moments. Mellowed by whatever that pinstripe-suited woman subplot was.

edited 19th Mar '18 7:25:22 PM by Soble

I liked the part where Negan speared Rick. :V

There's a serious problem in the show's narrative.

The Saviors should be, by and large, people who are as oppressed by Negan as everyone else. It's just he's got them by the balls.

But the show portrays them as an entire group of Governors.

It kind of ruins the show's narrative because the show is about how ANYONE CAN BECOME A MONSTER and that the heroes aren't great people themselves but they try to rise up above the dark side of the system.

I don't really follow.

The teaser for FTWD Season 4 borrows a lot from TWD's fifth mid-season trailer, and that is glorious.

I'm actually pumped to see this crossover now.

I'm saying I'm not a big fan of the Saviors as Always Chaotic Evil or making this a Black-and-White Morality conflict.

I'd be lying if I didn't say this season has given me the opposite impression.

Let's not even get started with Morgan.

edited 20th Mar '18 10:23:40 PM by Soble

They sway between not being like them and killing every Savior seen.

That teaser image makes me wonder if Morgan will die in the season eight finale of TWD, just to make his storyline in Fear more resonant.

I disagree, Negan system woudl encorage such people.

I tell you as venezuelan who lived in a dictatorship right now: the more a corrupt system exist, the more likey it will be to draw people that way, other wise you get mark.

The closed to a neutral evil is pretty much Gibbons: he see the whole think as a necesary evil system to mantain everything in order, and he chose to be lawfull over good.

Also, isnt anyone else impress in one how Carol and Morgan SOLO a entire Savior group?, it feel right now that Carol is playing H Itman or assasin creed right now.

Interesting video on the issues of the show.

I imagine that was made around the time of Season 7. The only part of that I agreed with was the point on fractured storylines, but they struck at the wrong flaws. The rest were the same tired criticisms about Seasons 2, 5, and 7, the show's overall pacing, and the presence of Negan that I disagree with to a fault.

There are problems with the show ^note (pointless character arcs like Noah's and Nicholas, stupid decisions like Rick's leading the Terminites to clear the gorge, Improbably Aiming Skills that seem to fail whenever a major antagonist is involved, lengthy periods of Navel Gazing) but none of the ones I have are "Negan is too vague and cartoon-y and he's been here for too long^note I feel like people who say the former haven't read the comic or just fail to appreciate the irony of such a character - a wacky, clean-shaven thug in a setting full of grime and despair facing off against a bearded sheriff whose already lost a great deal. Negan's morbidsense of honor and shameless brutality make him a staple of the show, a divergence in the formula of "group meets crazy violent people who will mostly exist to be brutally murdered" because Negan isn't some baby-murdering terrorist who is too short-sighted to keep himself well-defended. He's resourceful enough to keep the protagonists from making any real moves against him, and his gradual character development pushes him far from being "one note." - I'd dare say he's the most interesting character on the show right now because I truly don't know which direction he's going, and whether Rick's going to actually kill him or not" or "why isn't this show's pacing more like Game of Thrones?" ^note because it's not Game of Thrones, hell, Games of Thrones isn't Game of Thrones anymore

The plot hasn't become cyclical enough for me to complain about it. It just hasn't. I find most things seem repetitive if you're tempted to boil them down enough. ^note Repetitive to me would be if Alexandria had burnt down last season and the group had to walk to another sanctuary where some cannibals showed up and then it turned out it was like Woodbury and the cannibals were cutting off people's heads en masse, and then the group fled that place and wound up in another hospital where a mad dictator was making them work for their room and board. ^note  What we currently have is 3 seasons where the cast have found a suitable lodging and struggled to defend it. That isn't stagnancy.

Episodes that slow things down are useful. ^note I much enjoy - even when most others don't - episodes where you see what Rick and co were doing while Alexandria was being attacked. Could Walking Dead be handling it's large-scale storytelling better and connect smaller plot threads to the season's "A plot" better? Yes, and my ideal solution would be to lower the episode count and, yes, split up story beats into smaller chunks instead of doing an entire episode about Oceanside or Ezekiel and Carol; not "showing what every group is doing each episode like a game of chess." That wouldn't work for a show like this.

Doing an episode here and there to focus on the smaller characters isn't a bad thing. ^note A show with Loads And Loads Of Characters often needs to slow down in order to grant its supporting cast agency and character development.

edited 22nd Mar '18 11:18:52 PM by Soble