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Rose knew she was being manipulated, just not what Scratch wanted out of it.
Related: counter to the Go Mad from the Revelation interpretation of the whole cueball grimdark thing, my theory is that Scratch did something with the ball.
I never understood why anyone would trust anything the cueball says or does because it's well-established they're related to and controlled by Scratch. Rose knew he was manipulating her (although not to what extent, clearly), so it admittedly doesn't make sense that she'd trust the cueball.
"In the land of the insecure, the one-balled man is king." - Haven
Lover of masks.
I thought her folly was trusting a creepy midget.
Go figure.
Please.
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The cueball is not controlled by Scratch. Scratch is part cueball. The cueball just does what an 8ball doesn't and always tells the truth. He can make it explode but we haven't seen that he can make it lie.
He told Rose to ask it about the true nature of the horrorterrors and OH BIG SHOCK! THERE ARE SOME THINGS (WO)MAN IS NOT MEANT TO KNOW? YOU THINK?!
So, yeah. She's an idiot. She should have known better. She's a fan of the kind of lovecraftian shit that tells you that that would have been a bad idea.
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Maybe the yarnball Rose threw just has a ton of something like chloroform?
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nonarySpade
She's not stupid, she just lacks common sense and listens to the Id too much for her own good.
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The two are not mutually exclusive. And I never said he made it lie specifically (that would be a bit out of step with his character). He clearly can control them to some degree as he made Vriska's explode. We merely don't know how his control over them works.
"In the land of the insecure, the one-balled man is king." - Haven
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I can't really disagree with anything Boxcar is saying. Rose isn't as smart as she thinks. (Where is the proof of her smarts anyway? That she reads and plays psychotherapist and has a big vocabulary? The only thing I can think is that she ALMOST tricked Dave into staying behind.)
The baby bat/ Screamed out in fright,/ 'Turn on the dark,/ I'm afraid of the light.'
kingslayer
all i'll say is that INT and WIS are separate stats
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Chloroform doesn't work that way. You have to hold it over someone's mouth and nose. You can't just bonk it off their head.
Probably not like that. He told her to ask something that would bork her mind and she just did. Even though she should know better. Its almost as sad as the Tavros hate.
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I'd concur with this interpretation. Rose has very high INT but relatively low WIS.
edited 15th Dec '11 3:04:22 PM by BooleanEarth
"In the land of the insecure, the one-balled man is king." - Haven
Oh. 
Well hopefully someone gets to ask how it knocked Dave out the next time Hussie opens his ask. 
edited 15th Dec '11 3:05:15 PM by Bookyangel2438
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kingslayer
she also took hubris for her flaw so the gm would let her have pink irises
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nonarySpade
I don't think we should question that Rose is intelligent. I mean, we obviously won't get the time to see her do advanced calculus, but I think it's safe to assume she was reasonably smart but being in the position she was in didn't exactly do wonders for her sanity.
They call themselves seamstresses -Feet Of Clay
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Teebs sometimes you're a good egg.
I'll question whatever I want.
edited 15th Dec '11 3:06:04 PM by Bocaj
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Well, Rose clearly has all the trappings of a well-informed intellectual. This carries with it certain implications of intelligence, which are supported by her demeanor in various chatlogs and her approach to the game in general.
"In the land of the insecure, the one-balled man is king." - Haven
nonarySpade
Her biggest problem is that she went all Tea Party on Sburb and was all "NUH UH THE MAN AINT NEVUH GOAN TELL ME WHAT TO DO"
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kingslayer
the other times i'm an even gooder egg
edited 15th Dec '11 3:09:05 PM by Teebert
"Teebs is a total grump, but he's usually right." - NLK
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And then a man-shaped individual did in fact tell her what to do. Tsk.
Generally true.
edited 15th Dec '11 3:09:23 PM by Bocaj
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kingslayer
that's almost as sexist as feferi drinking tab
"Teebs is a total grump, but he's usually right." - NLK
The Rosealutionary War? 
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Almost but not quite. Nothing is as sexist as that.
edited 15th Dec '11 3:11:00 PM by Bocaj
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Are we seriously arguing about whether or not Rose was tricked by Scratch? I'm pretty sure that's exactly what happened.
The baby bat/ Screamed out in fright,/ 'Turn on the dark,/ I'm afraid of the light.'
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No, we were debating whether that makes her an idiot (NO!) and, more briefly, how she was tricked by Scratch.
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No, we're arguing over the exact moment when the tricking happened. Because it's critically important that we can quantify exactly how bad an idea it was for Rose to talk with Scratch.
Rose's folly is that she's intelligent and she's aware of the fact. She wouldn't think that she was being played by a person telling the truth 100% of the time.
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