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BooleanEarth And a happy new year. from Banned Land Since: Jul, 2011
And a happy new year.
#67101: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:21:06 PM

Or Rose "Gullible Idiot" Lalonde.

I KNOW you did not just hate on Rose >:(

@Dundee YES! Finally someone else who understands that Velma is gay. I love my gay!Velma.

edited 15th Dec '11 2:22:21 PM by BooleanEarth

"In the land of the insecure, the one-balled man is king." - Haven
Teebert kingslayer from boxcar's noggin Since: Sep, 2009
kingslayer
#67102: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:23:19 PM

she got fooled by a puppet, she's basically the worst character ever, boxcar's right

"Teebs is a total grump, but he's usually right." - NLK
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#67103: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:24:27 PM

[up][up] I did just hate on Rose. In your thread, slaughtering your sacred cows, enjoying fine steaks.

I AM THE 90%.

[up] You are a reasonable fellow.

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PulpFreeBookworm Post Tenebras Lux from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
Post Tenebras Lux
#67104: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:25:16 PM

"Velma is gay" gets on my nerves for the same reason "Rainbow Dash is gay" gets on my nerves. Short hair and being bookish (in Rainbow Dash's case, athletic) do not a lesbian make. Neither of those characters show interest in ANYBODY. They could be any orientation. And ultimately what does it matter? Who are you gonna ship Velma with, Daphne? Daphne has Fred and she's boring anyway.

The baby bat/ Screamed out in fright,/ 'Turn on the dark,/ I'm afraid of the light.'
Kexruct nonarySpade from Vvardenfell Since: Mar, 2011
nonarySpade
#67105: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:27:20 PM

For that matter, Gren isn't gay, a lifetime of trauma just made him asexual.

QUILTBAG DERAIL

They call themselves seamstresses -Feet Of Clay
Teebert kingslayer from boxcar's noggin Since: Sep, 2009
kingslayer
#67106: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:27:32 PM

everyone knows daphne's closeted and secretly yearns to not be with the dumb oaf with the neckerchief

"Teebs is a total grump, but he's usually right." - NLK
dundee_998 Seer of Smut Since: Jul, 2009
Seer of Smut
#67107: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:28:34 PM

According to Wikipedia, the creators thought she was towards the other side of the Kinsey scale too, but there weren't any practical applications. And then she and Shaggy started dating but it was in secret because Shaggy was afraid of Scooby's reaction and it was a huge mess.

ANYWAY. She can be gay in the same way Dumbledore was gay. It's just another aspect of her character that adds context to the things she does.

For the record, my mom didn't let me watch Scooby Doo when I was growing up. I had to watch it at my friends' houses.

BooleanEarth And a happy new year. from Banned Land Since: Jul, 2011
And a happy new year.
#67108: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:29:10 PM

[up][up][up][up]Well, I'm not going to derail this thread with all the reasons you're wrong, but know that I have a rant inside of me and it is absurd how much thought I've put into it.

RE:Rose Man, Rose is the best character! She's easily the smartest of any of the kids, she's snarky and adorable and super funny, and she didn't resign herself to the whole predestination thing! Not to mention she's a stone cold badass. And the puppet was an OMNISCIENT MANIPULATIVE BASTARD! Not too hard to be fooled by.

edited 15th Dec '11 2:30:32 PM by BooleanEarth

"In the land of the insecure, the one-balled man is king." - Haven
Bluespade from Fort Worth, Texas Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
#67109: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:29:48 PM

Rose only got played by Scratch because he timed it right when she was most vulnerable, immediately after she learned her mother was murdered. She was hardly in an analytical mood.

Fight. Struggle. Endure. Suffer. LIVE.
dundee_998 Seer of Smut Since: Jul, 2009
Seer of Smut
#67110: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:31:19 PM

Look, we all know Rose is fabulous, Bocaj is just being ridiculous as always.

PulpFreeBookworm Post Tenebras Lux from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
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#67111: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:31:37 PM

How did Dumbledore being gay add context to his actions? I don't know why we insist that characters' orientations somehow affect how they act.

And once again, Velma being gay would only make me disappointed because that'd mean her unique traits would be nothing but results of stereotyping.

[down] Personally, it would make no difference to me if Dumbledore and Grindlewald were lovers or just really close friends (or "bros") or even if Dumbledore just had a crush on him that grindlewald took advantage of. The point is that they were close and Dumbledore did stupid things in his youth because of Grindlewald. Right?

edited 15th Dec '11 2:36:53 PM by PulpFreeBookworm

The baby bat/ Screamed out in fright,/ 'Turn on the dark,/ I'm afraid of the light.'
Bluespade from Fort Worth, Texas Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
#67112: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:33:04 PM

Bocaj is just being ridiculous as always.

Of course.

How did Dumbledore being gay add context to his actions?

It painted his interactions with Grindelward (am I saying that right?) in a different light. It lent a lot of credibility to the idea that they were lovers. Other than that, nothing.

edited 15th Dec '11 2:33:25 PM by Bluespade

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BetaRay Web Slinger/Hope Bringer Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#67113: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:35:38 PM

"For the record, my mom didn't let me watch Scooby Doo when I was growing up. I had to watch it at my friends' houses. "

You poor, deprived child.

edited 15th Dec '11 2:36:59 PM by BetaRay

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dundee_998 Seer of Smut Since: Jul, 2009
Seer of Smut
#67114: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:36:06 PM

I really wish I could argue with you about why Velma is awesome no matter her sexuality, but

you know

not that familiar with the series.

All I knew growing up was that the animation was pretty terrible, Daphne had the same name as my cat, and Velma was smart and pretty and got shit done.

Bluespade from Fort Worth, Texas Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
#67115: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:36:25 PM

"For the record, my mom didn't let me watch Scooby Doo when I was growing up. I had to watch it at my friends' houses. "

You lucky, lucky child.

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TheDeadMansLife Lover of masks. Since: Nov, 2009
Lover of masks.
#67116: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:36:39 PM

Two things

First: WHO ARE ALL THESE STRANGERS???!?

Second: Do we need to call the mods about the [strike: awesome] stupid derails? This is why skype is there. So your young and blooming nerd sexuality can be in a place noone can see. Like the retarded sibling in the Victorian era. We keep it locked in a place were noone can see it.

Please.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#67117: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:37:08 PM

Well, I'm not going to derail this thread with all the reasons you're wrong, but know that I have a rant inside of me and it is absurd how much thought I've put into it.

Go ahead. Oddly enough, a rant about Rose would be on topic.

Look, we all know Rose is fabulous, Bocaj is just being ridiculous as always.

I'm prone to exaggeration but in terms of the beta kids, she's bottom tier. Probably bottom tier of a combined list of alpha and beta kids.

Rose only got played by Scratch because he timed it right when she was most vulnerable, immediately after she learned her mother was murdered. She was hardly in an analytical mood.

You clearly missed the fact that they interacted a long time before that. And that the whole time he was manipulating her.

RE:Rose Man, Rose is the best character!

Welp. I disagree.

edited 15th Dec '11 2:38:14 PM by Bocaj

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Metaflare MERMAID from Yes Since: Apr, 2011
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#67118: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:37:23 PM

scooby doo was the shit blue

you did not just hate on my childhood

edited 15th Dec '11 2:37:34 PM by Metaflare

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Kexruct nonarySpade from Vvardenfell Since: Mar, 2011
nonarySpade
#67119: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:38:01 PM

no you dumb homo tool your STIKING WRONG

They call themselves seamstresses -Feet Of Clay
Teebert kingslayer from boxcar's noggin Since: Sep, 2009
kingslayer
#67120: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:38:38 PM

eh, john's bottom-tier for me. because he's kind of boring. like most "everyman" characters tend to be.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#67121: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:39:44 PM

Teebs we've established that your opinion is invalid due to your subversive love of the color orange.

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PulpFreeBookworm Post Tenebras Lux from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
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#67122: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:40:40 PM

Personal kid rankings:

  • Jake
  • Dave
  • John
  • Lalonde
  • Strider
  • Jane
  • Rose
  • Jade

Come. At. Me.

[down] Meta, you are a pretty cool guy.

edited 15th Dec '11 2:41:59 PM by PulpFreeBookworm

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BooleanEarth And a happy new year. from Banned Land Since: Jul, 2011
And a happy new year.
#67124: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:41:57 PM

Velma is the greatest and so is Rose. HATERS GONNA HATE

"In the land of the insecure, the one-balled man is king." - Haven
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#67125: Dec 15th 2011 at 2:41:57 PM

[up][up] Yes she is. Best PC-98. But that's besides the point.

[up][up][up] Well, I disagree with where you placed the Lalonde but I respect your opinions and know that you're a reasonable person. Let us have a friendly hand shake to assert the fact that we get along.

[up] Velma is best, Rose is not. Other than that, your statement was valid.

edited 15th Dec '11 2:42:33 PM by Bocaj

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