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RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#201501: Mar 29th 2024 at 9:26:48 PM

[up][up] Curses, half the fun of Pokemon fangames is seeing the madness that internet people can make and presenting it with total sincerity.

Like, I would never imagine a fanatical lady with ice powers as the leader of a religious cult dedicated to Arceus in a Pokemon game.

And no Pokemon fangame is complete without Arceus being treated like the Abrahamic God despite that not at all fitting him.

I could write a paper on the cultural biases on display by mostly American writers trying to make a Pokemon fangame.

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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#201502: Mar 29th 2024 at 9:37:53 PM

When you've read enough fanfics about Japanese properties taking place in Japanese, written by Western authors, you start to pick up on the fact that the cultural difference can extend way past just what happens in Pokemon, but I digress.

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#201503: Mar 29th 2024 at 9:39:59 PM

Amusingly, the only legendaries that DO get worshipped like deities are Rayquaza, Dialga, and Palkia.

And the latter two is mostly because of a mistake.

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Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#201504: Mar 29th 2024 at 9:56:09 PM

Emerald Rogue is basically just Pokemon streamlined into a roguelike format.

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The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from In a deep dark hole Since: Dec, 2023 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#201505: Mar 29th 2024 at 9:56:42 PM

I don't think there's much of a mistake in that worship but just that the clans had separate parts of a greater whole as the temple of sinnoh can be seen with Arcues faces on it.

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#201506: Mar 29th 2024 at 9:57:22 PM

[up][up][up]The argument could be made Ho-Oh and Lugia are as well. Since the Tin Tower (I think it has a different name in the Japanese?) is dedicated to Ho-Oh, and the Burned Tower was for Lugia.

Edited by diddyknux on Mar 29th 2024 at 11:57:57 AM

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#201507: Mar 29th 2024 at 9:58:18 PM

[up][up]I mean, they couldn't tell if it was Dialga or Palkia who created Hisui, which is the basis of each clan's worship IIRC.

When it was Arceus. And he is mostly hands off with what he created barring certain circumstances.

[up] Ahhh, okay forgot about those two.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 30th 2024 at 12:58:35 AM

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The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from In a deep dark hole Since: Dec, 2023 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#201508: Mar 29th 2024 at 10:19:52 PM

[up]what I'm trying to say is that the people before the clans did worship Arcues, sorry for the confusion.

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wooden-ladybug93 Half-Kitsune from San Fransokyo (Green Sprout) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#201509: Mar 29th 2024 at 11:13:39 PM

I prefer the actual games over fangames, thanks.

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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#201510: Mar 30th 2024 at 12:00:14 AM

[up][up][up]Does stuff like Celebi’s shrine make it worshipped?

Edited by Lymantria on Mar 30th 2024 at 3:00:25 PM

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RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#201511: Mar 30th 2024 at 12:09:21 AM

That’s a tricky one since it’s implied no one knows it belongs to Celebi.

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#201512: Mar 30th 2024 at 12:33:34 AM

Since the Tin Tower (I think it has a different name in the Japanese?)
The Tin Tower and the Brass Tower (Burnt Tower) are both called the Bell Tower in Japanese, which the English version of HGSS renames the former tower to, but they used different words for "bell" as Japanese has a couple different ones. Suzu (鈴) refers to a round bell, while Kane (鐘) means a bell-shaped bell. But these words also happen to be homophones with the Japanese words for "tin" (錫) and "metal" (金), so that's where the English translators for GSC mistakenly got calling them the Tin and Brass Towers. Although it could be intentional double-naming so the GSC translators weren't really wrong, since tin is a silvery metal, while "kane" as in "metal" is written in the same kanji for "gold" (just in that case it's pronounced "kin"), hence English GSC went with calling it Brass because that's a gold-ish looking alloy.

Edited by KuroBaraHime on Mar 30th 2024 at 3:35:21 PM

Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#201513: Mar 30th 2024 at 12:56:42 AM

The Pokédex does mention Celebi worship (although, as you might expect, it was initially edited out in translation).

[down] Eusine?

Edited by Lymantria on Mar 30th 2024 at 5:00:57 AM

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#201514: Mar 30th 2024 at 1:20:08 AM

We could say Suicune has at least one worshipper. [lol]

Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#201515: Mar 30th 2024 at 5:10:04 AM

So if Eusine worships Suicune, does that mean Captain Ahab worships Moby-Dick? Because I don't think so.

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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#201516: Mar 30th 2024 at 7:15:35 AM

But Eusine doesn't want to kill Suicune though.

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#201517: Mar 30th 2024 at 10:12:50 AM

I don't think Euisine worships Suicune? He's a researcher that specializes in studying the Legendary Beasts and has great respect for Suicune but that doesn't equate to worship. I figure people who do worship Legendary Pokemon have no desire to capture them but could be wrong.

Edited by MacronNotes on Mar 30th 2024 at 1:13:45 PM

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#201518: Mar 30th 2024 at 2:23:18 PM

Iono man I would love to capture God inside a tupperware container and use him to beat up ten year olds so I could take their lunch money.

Let's pretend for the moment I'm a devout Christian.

Edited by Arha on Mar 30th 2024 at 4:23:49 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#201519: Mar 30th 2024 at 2:26:42 PM

[up]See, you think you're making a joke, but we both know there's lots of dudes who'd say that seriously.[lol]

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wooden-ladybug93 Half-Kitsune from San Fransokyo (Green Sprout) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
Half-Kitsune
#201520: Mar 30th 2024 at 2:32:07 PM

I should point out that I am PRETTY certain that the Arceus that's obtainable...is just basically dandruff of the real thing. The real Arceus, which may or may not look like the space horsey, is still out there, untouchable.

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#201521: Mar 30th 2024 at 2:33:55 PM

Yes it's kinda implied their that as Top God. We just catch a piece of him. Rather Than the actual creator.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#201522: Mar 30th 2024 at 3:09:26 PM

Forget implied. PLA has Arceus outright confirm that, that it's just giving you a small piece of itself to act as an avatar.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Mar 30th 2024 at 6:09:47 AM

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wooden-ladybug93 Half-Kitsune from San Fransokyo (Green Sprout) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
Half-Kitsune
#201523: Mar 30th 2024 at 3:10:54 PM

[up] I…still haven’t beaten that game yet. Stuck on that stupid Kricketune boss.

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The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from In a deep dark hole Since: Dec, 2023 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#201524: Mar 30th 2024 at 4:02:51 PM

Reminder: online for the 3ds is shutting down on the 8th of next month. Bank still will work after that but make sure to transfer your mons now.

Edited by The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion on Mar 30th 2024 at 4:03:46 AM

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#201525: Mar 30th 2024 at 4:27:05 PM

At least now these stupid hackers won't be able to flood the GTS with their damned hacked Mons anymore.

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